So tired of it being 2025 and these posts making it to Lemmy. Have any of you ever actually played some of the queer games out there? I’ve played lesbian games made by women mostly targeting an audience for women that are so spicy they’d set your skin on fire. It’s not the sexuality that’s an issue, it’s a larger cultural conversation about where these things belong, how they’re viewed by the masses, and the impression it creates on children who this is ostensibly for too, I guess? Teens? Still impressionable.
Grow up and go play an h-game in your own privacy and don’t make it everyone else’s problem. And stop laundering your opinion with “someone is going to make a post”. You made the post, you brought the trash into the house, and the (current) 9 upvotes shows you’re giving it space to breath and quite frankly, it reeks.
EDIT: no opinion on post, I don’t care how caked she is. If I were that actress, I’d honestly be proud, too.
Last post and I’m done here, but let me explain the post and my response:
Someone is going to make a long post about how women is being portrayed as sexual objects in games and will absolutely refuse to acknowledge this post.
Poster is implying that someone (leftist, feminist, anyone they don’t agree with) will come in here and complain about how sexual this is. Rather than expressing any genuine sentiment or opinion of their own, they assumed one for someone else, a strawman to bat at. It’s a dogwhistle, an attempt to bait out and rehash old Gamergate shit. I mean, I do have to assume because again, I cannot overstate how lazy and insincere it is to make a post like this that does not express your own opinion and implies someone else’s.
The primary point I was trying to make with the overall post is that it’s not sex or sexuality that is the problem. Didn’t Larian release a mainstream game where you could have sex as a bear? Look, the ORIGINAL Twitter post is the model indicating how proud she is, I think we can very confidently say she does not feel like she’s being treated as a sexual object in this context and most people can see that. OP cannot distinguish the difference between sexuality in videogames and treating women as sexual objects. That’s gross and they need to sit and think on that for a LONG while, preferably before ever talking to a woman again.
EDIT: Just listen to women. If a woman says, “I feel like I’m being objectified”, you stop. If a woman says, “Damn, I look sexy!” you say, “Hell yeah!”
I thought the connection to the initial comment was made very clear. The initial comment said:
Someone is going to make a long post about how women is being portrayed as sexual objects in games and will absolutely refuse to acknowledge this post.
audaxreik’s initial reaction basically just berated them for saying this, but in the most recent post audaxreik explained this hostility. Loosely speaking, the initial comment was an unprovoked strawman attack against feminism - and audaxreik wanted to push back against that.
In any case, I think the discussion here has run its course.
You know, fair enough, you caught me in a “think of the children” argument and I never expected to be the one here. But I stand by my point. And wash my hands of the matter.
Returning to the queer games I mentioned earlier, those are by and large indie games. And quite adult/NSFW. Not strictly by nature of being queer to be clear, simply having LGBTQ+ representation doesn’t make it adult. Just being in that space, those are the themes they choose to explore. Do you see the nuance here?
We’re mammals, we stand at the pinnacle of human technology and evolution, man and woman hand-in-hand shouting, “Boobs! Boobs! Boobs! Boobs! Boobs!” (or butt, whatever, I’ve made my stance known). The boobs and butts belong in specific times/places and when that lines up properly, let us exalt them. But can we at least agree that the time/place is at a bare minimum NOT everywhere all the time?
Bringing up these tired arguments forfeits your place at the table. But even further, these are all mainstream corporate interests regarding Marvel and Disney and property/brand characters. Let it go. Fuck them into a hole in the ground, fill it with cement, and leave the grave unmarked. These arguments exist because we choose to exalt these properties instead, of which there are limited spaces in a roster, dying for “mainstream” representation of everyone’s preferred “thing”. Just go play an indie that suits you. You’ll find weirder ones that hyper focus your own fetishes and fixations to a point where it’s almost terrifying.
So tired of it being 2025 and these posts making it to Lemmy. Have any of you ever actually played some of the queer games out there? I’ve played lesbian games made by women mostly targeting an audience for women that are so spicy they’d set your skin on fire. It’s not the sexuality that’s an issue, it’s a larger cultural conversation about where these things belong, how they’re viewed by the masses, and the impression it creates on children who this is ostensibly for too, I guess? Teens? Still impressionable.
Grow up and go play an h-game in your own privacy and don’t make it everyone else’s problem. And stop laundering your opinion with “someone is going to make a post”. You made the post, you brought the trash into the house, and the (current) 9 upvotes shows you’re giving it space to breath and quite frankly, it reeks.
EDIT: no opinion on post, I don’t care how caked she is. If I were that actress, I’d honestly be proud, too.
I’m genuinely confused as to who or what you’re talking about. I don’t get how this relates to the comment you replied to or the OP…
Last post and I’m done here, but let me explain the post and my response:
Poster is implying that someone (leftist, feminist, anyone they don’t agree with) will come in here and complain about how sexual this is. Rather than expressing any genuine sentiment or opinion of their own, they assumed one for someone else, a strawman to bat at. It’s a dogwhistle, an attempt to bait out and rehash old Gamergate shit. I mean, I do have to assume because again, I cannot overstate how lazy and insincere it is to make a post like this that does not express your own opinion and implies someone else’s.
The primary point I was trying to make with the overall post is that it’s not sex or sexuality that is the problem. Didn’t Larian release a mainstream game where you could have sex as a bear? Look, the ORIGINAL Twitter post is the model indicating how proud she is, I think we can very confidently say she does not feel like she’s being treated as a sexual object in this context and most people can see that. OP cannot distinguish the difference between sexuality in videogames and treating women as sexual objects. That’s gross and they need to sit and think on that for a LONG while, preferably before ever talking to a woman again.
EDIT: Just listen to women. If a woman says, “I feel like I’m being objectified”, you stop. If a woman says, “Damn, I look sexy!” you say, “Hell yeah!”
Slight quibble: in BG3 you can have sex with a bear (who is the shape shifted form of an absolutely beefcake elf druid).
Would, and did.
Dude, you do realize that that still has nothing to do with the comment you responded to?
If you had made it as a top level comment of your own, it would make sense. Maybe that’s what you intended; I know I’ve fucked that up many a time.
Again, my only issue is that what you said wasn’t connected to the comment above it, but the content of your statements.
I thought the connection to the initial comment was made very clear. The initial comment said:
audaxreik’s initial reaction basically just berated them for saying this, but in the most recent post audaxreik explained this hostility. Loosely speaking, the initial comment was an unprovoked strawman attack against feminism - and audaxreik wanted to push back against that.
In any case, I think the discussion here has run its course.
Ikr? It’s so out of place as a response to the comment it’s under.
See response ^
I do not understand, did someone cake that poor girl?
Children, impressionable? How many buts and dolled up women do they see in real life?
You know, fair enough, you caught me in a “think of the children” argument and I never expected to be the one here. But I stand by my point. And wash my hands of the matter.
Returning to the queer games I mentioned earlier, those are by and large indie games. And quite adult/NSFW. Not strictly by nature of being queer to be clear, simply having LGBTQ+ representation doesn’t make it adult. Just being in that space, those are the themes they choose to explore. Do you see the nuance here?
We’re mammals, we stand at the pinnacle of human technology and evolution, man and woman hand-in-hand shouting, “Boobs! Boobs! Boobs! Boobs! Boobs!” (or butt, whatever, I’ve made my stance known). The boobs and butts belong in specific times/places and when that lines up properly, let us exalt them. But can we at least agree that the time/place is at a bare minimum NOT everywhere all the time?
Bringing up these tired arguments forfeits your place at the table. But even further, these are all mainstream corporate interests regarding Marvel and Disney and property/brand characters. Let it go. Fuck them into a hole in the ground, fill it with cement, and leave the grave unmarked. These arguments exist because we choose to exalt these properties instead, of which there are limited spaces in a roster, dying for “mainstream” representation of everyone’s preferred “thing”. Just go play an indie that suits you. You’ll find weirder ones that hyper focus your own fetishes and fixations to a point where it’s almost terrifying.