• The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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    1 day ago

    katy perry hate has come in waves:

    • hating her music because it was unchallenging and consumable (there’s other artists i’d hate for this long before her)
    • hating her for standing up for rebecca black (this wave is pure misogyny)
    • hating her because she broke up with russel brand (russel brand sucks, she should have never dated his garbage ass. i probably should have listed an item for she dated russel brand in the first place, but that wave is miniscule and insignificant)
    • hating her because she cut her hair and she aged and that wasn’t sexy for some people (this is as far as i can tell the largest and most misogynistic wave)
    • hating her for going back to doctor luke to try to recapture the popularity she had earlier in her career when he was her producer (this is the tempo i’m on. dr luke is ke$ha’s abuser and as far as i can tell is a serial predator)
    • hating her because she’s acting as propaganda for one of the technoligarchs in our fascist regime (rather fair, i’d say, tbh)
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      18 hours ago

      I didn’t know she went back to Dr Luke. Well I hate her now too. If you are willing to work with a known piece of shit like that just for a buck, them you are garbage as well.

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      23 hours ago

      I don’t HATE her but I’m about as sick of seeing her as Jimmy Fallon. She’s boring yet always in the spotlight.

      I went from completely neutral to mild dislike at your second to last point. Not only is he a rapist, the album sucks. She’s out of touch in a genre that caters to the youth.

      FWIW I have a remix of Cali Girls on my morning playlist. Also FWIW, 3/4 of my favorite artists are women

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        22 hours ago

        the thing i mostly wanted to capture is basically that there are valid reasons to want nothing to do with Katy Perry in the year 2025, but the largest bloc of anti-perry stans are in it for the wrong reasons, and there are other people we should be doing more more to strip of power. it’s basically… the only people we’re good at stripping of power as a society are minorities and women. i’m not saying we shouldn’t be stripping katy perry of power, but it does contrast with how many times john mayer and justin timberlake have done something shitty and been alowed to hang around. the mysoginy in this instance is less the hate, and more the hate in contrast with others

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          21 hours ago

          You’re not wrong but I do think there’s more nuance to it than that as other female celebrities don’t get nearly the hate she does.

          Katy Perry represents the music industry. She is THE corporate artist, bland and inoffensive. She’s a good singer but not a unique or amazing one. She’s not all that popular anymore yet she’s constantly in the news (TBF, I probably follow music news closer than most).

          Collaborating with with Dr. Luke on her new album made it clear that she’s just hollow. Whatever it takes to stay in the spotlight. It’s like getting Chris Brown to do a feature on your single.

          I’m not sure John Mayer is a great example here as it’s been a long time since he even ran in the top 40 circle.

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            21 hours ago

            i listed john mayer because he’s up to even worse shit masquerading as an artist’s artist in the blues scene. but on the whole, yes. hating katy perry more than any other female artist is totally fair. but to hate her more than any other artist at all? i find that a little suspicious. and again. i’m in the swaths of katy perry haters. i hate her because she props up a mysoginistic system. but even i look around at the horde and go “guys, really? all this? for her?”

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      21 hours ago

      I don’t hate her but she had always been musically boring and generally uninteresting as a person. Pure basic but elevated by the hype machine. This is just another example of it.