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    This is why the right are called reactionaries. This guy doesn’t wanna make music. He wants to oppose the left.

    That is the ideology. There is no through line in conservative thought besides opposition to emancipotory movements. Small government, abortion, guns, religion, tradition, and the family are not values, but ramparts and trenches in the war with the left.

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    I’ve noticed every conservative song can’t quite keep their lack of skills for symbolism for the whole song. The closest they ever came was the dude singing about the rich men north of richmond, but even then, he had to shit on poor people in poor health. Truly a man of the people.

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      That song isn’t written from the perspective you think it is. Oliver Anthony came out staunchly against the hard right who tried to take his song as a rallying cry against welfare recipients.

      He is saying that we are misappropriating funds that could supply healthy foods to more people. Instead, some are abusing the system to become more unhealthy. The reason thst they get this unhealthy food is (from the song’s perspective) because the country doesn’t do anything to support mental health and this is their chosen outlet.

      “Lord we’ve got folks in the street who aint got nothing to eat And the obese milkin’ welfare If your five foot three and three hundred pounds Taxes ought to not pay for your bags of fudge rounds Young men are putting themselves 6 feet in the ground Because all this damn country does is keep kicking them down”

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        I am very dubious of Oliver Anthony’s attempts to retcon his words. If he didn’t come out and try to gaslight us into thinking it’s about how government food stamps aren’t enough to eat healthy or pigeonholing mental health in there then I’d be more amicable to his childish over simplifications and both-sidisms. It’s fine if you don’t know about politics, but when you lie about your lyrics, your narratives inherently take on new meanings. The lyrics were not symbolic enough to be misinterpreted. He said the government ought not pay for your unhealthy food choices… He meandered about other bullshit in the lyrics, but I guess he forgot to mention the actual thing he was talking about.

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        IDK what this dude has in his heart, but he thinks about wealth, power, and corruption geographically. I can’t say he is a confederate, but I can say he thinks like one.

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          He’s singing about lived experience in the South. Did you expect him to address the whole nation or globe? As Stephen King often says, write about what you know.

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        Replying to my own reply.

        “I mean, we are the melting pot of the world, and that’s what makes us strong, is our diversity, and we need to learn to harness that and appreciate it, and not use it as a political tool to keep everyone separate from each other you know?”

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      I’m curious what other conservative songs are out there. I’m trying to think of a banger that’s even remotely conservative/political but I’m coming up blank.

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        You could argue “Brought to your courtesy of the red white and blue” song after 911 was conservative. It’s still devoid of symbolism except for patriotic slop everyone understands

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        There was a list floating around (before Trump) of songs that, with sufficiently motivated reasoning, could be claimed for conservatism. I don’t remember the entirety of it, but I recall The Beatles’ “Taxman”, and the reasoning that taxes are bad, being a representative example.

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        Tom McDonald (?) is an awful rightwing rapper. No bangers to be found but he’s got a lot of songs (and I recommend none of them)

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    The fact that they’d want to make a “Rage Against the Machine” band based off of political views means they missed the idea of “Rage Against the Machine” entirely.

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    I enjoy how much of a struggle everyone in the comments is having to think of a single decent conservative rock band, let alone one like RatM. If you understand people attracted to authortarianism, it makes sense; they prefer simple over nuanced, they tend to be more likely to conform, etc, it’s quite obvious that their values run contrary to art.

    That said, conservative rock bands do exist, even if their songs aren’t. They just aren’t generally artistic or thought provoking. Smash Mouth came to mind (they shilled for Bush back in the day) and All Star is still played on the radio. I’d bet if you dug around, you’d probably find more of those 90s pop rock folks orient right.

    Although even trying to think of annoying 90s songs led me down a weird rabbit hole. Like, you know that song “Two Princes” by Spin Doctors? Turns out one Spin Doctor is a major atheist activist. So who knows?

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    I thought about rewriting a RATM song’s lyrics to parody this dumb ass concept but then I remembered the only successful neo nazi songs are popular songs with racist hateful lyrics, because they’re all uncreative twat waffles.

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    Can’t you see, you’re not making the right better, you’re just making rock and roll worse!

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    “what the left and globalists have done”

    Am I crazy or have conservatives been harping on “free trade” my entire life?

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    Can’t wait to see their set with such time honoured bangers as

    • Know Your Neighbour
    • Suburban Rebellion
    • Go To Sleep
    • Tarrifs In The Name Of
    • Convicted Fellons On Parade
    • People Of The Mar-a-Lago
    • RussiaNow
    • Freedom Radio
    • Preach
    • New Boomer Homes

    And many many more.

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      Killing in the Name will still be titled the same but with different lyrics “Thank you, I’ll do what you tell me!”

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    Of cource they never listen to the words… Yet the band members are rich celebrities with mansions in LA. It is all kinds of stupid. We never see those who walk the walk. As Yankee idol whoreshipers we are so easily co opted infiltrated always pulling the cart before the horse… So your low-level adversaries are really just ignorant fools. we roll around in the mud, chasing our tail. The Maga Hogs are still the proletariat. The libturds are not the rebel alliance. They got us in this situation by design because foreign policy is the only policy. And as they mix us up at the bottom, we fight amongst ourselves as these rich people bankrupt our country and set the world ablaze. ALL Education in America is indoctrination. Yankee Land is a combination of being stuck in Disneyland with no money with a North Korean control system that is obfuscated and hidden in background processes.The fear of being ostracized is a primal fear and because we live in communities, or evolutionarily, we’ve gotten to this point through cooperation and not competition. This is ingrained in us as a survival mechanism. Our tribalism can be manufactured and used as a tool to push forward the capitalist classes agenda. United States is a imperialist empire and fascist are the useful idiots of empire. Most people have a price. We all fear death, especially the religious. Never touch your idols: the gilding will stick to your fingers.