Summary
Following Donald Trump’s recent election victory, Google searches for “4B,” a South Korean feminist movement advocating a “no sex, no dating, no marriage, no children” stance, surged in the U.S.
The 4B movement, popular among young women on social media, promotes individual resistance against conservative politics and the erosion of reproductive rights.
The trend reflects a broader ideological divide between young men and women in the U.S., where women under 30 are significantly more liberal than men.
It’s always amazing how many men out themselves in these threads. Immediately angry and defensive. There’s no greater way to know that you’re exactly the kind of man these women are worried about than having that reaction.
In this thread a few people left mild and fair criticism and immediately got accused of being conservative. Some I recognized as having specifically progressive ideas in other threads.
I think there are fair criticisms of this for sure. Saying them out loud does not mean you have anything but the opinion you say. And now watch, I’ll be dog piled and accused of hating women or whatever.
Which isn’t true at all, it just seems kind of weird to deny yourself the pleasure of sex because… I guess… you don’t trust yourself to find a man who isn’t a piece of shit? Either that or you somehow believe such a person doesn’t exist? The only other option is it’s about being spiteful in a way that won’t help anyone at all. Conservative men are already having trouble getting women and you aren’t going to turn them liberal by not having sex with anyone. For this to ever work you’d need a large percentage of women to participate, which obviously isn’t going to happen.
No there really isn’t any Fair criticism of this. That’s kind of the point. This would be a personal decision about your own sexuality. The idea that you can choose who to sleep with even if it’s no one is entirely up to every individual. It’s literally nobody else’s business. If someone thinks they have any right to inject their opinion into this decision it shows are exactly the kind of person that these women are worried about. It’s some kind of innate sense that a person should be able to control the bodily autonomy of another. If you have it you’re the problem.
Every sentence of your third paragraph there is dripping with a sort of entitlement that is a a blaring siren for any woman who reads it.
Point proven. Blocking you.
Reactionaries suck and I’d hate to date one