no idea who these guys are, but I’ve not been systematically downvoting anyone.
edit:
ironic :D
all seem to be dubvee.org, is this a potential federation issue?
edit 2: also trans rights, BLM, free Palestine, Ukraine is a sovereign nation, bigotry is wrong. just to be clear, I see a lot of people complaining about being banned and their shitty rhetoric reveals them. I try to be an ally, these bans are not warranted, likely a butthurt right winger.
A bot was likely involved somewhere in the process (and with tons of potential for false positives), possibly even if it picked up something outside of dubvee. Though that is not the automated message (and I suspect they’d stand behind it even if it were a low amount of votes).
Not sure if it’s what you meant, but some of the bans like this stop all of activity from being visible to dubvee users.
Gonna be honest, whether it’s a bot or not, the idea of banning people for voting on posts or comments in some way you don’t like is deeply funny to me.
“YOU’RE INFLUENCING THE MADE-UP INTERNET POINTS THAT DON’T MATTER! EEEEEEK!”
One in that list has 5 or so members and attracts about -20 votes on every post and comment. It’s unpleasant to visit a community where every post and comment is at -15, even if they’re “imaginary points” it makes the community hard to sort
Since Jet started enforcing the “no mass down voting” rule automatically things sit at 0 to +5.
Exactly. It’s not about fake internet points it’s about making a safe space where the lurkers feel comfortable to contribute and participate without getting dogpiled.
It’s very much like growing a garden, it has to be tended to, weeded, and protected from local varmints for the young plants to flourish
The script doesn’t run on my personal community [email protected] because im the only poster and I know internet points aren’t real. I don’t need to encourage others to participate.
I mean if all someone does is go to communities to downvote every single post, it is clear that they are having an agenda, rather than interacting with the content in a fair way.
As there is an algorithm pushing things to “hot” or “active” in the local and all feeds based on votes, it does have an influence on the visibility of posts.
The points are made up and thankfully we don’t have similar karma system as reddit, but your overall received upvote/downvote score ratio between a certain timespan is being evaluated by automod bots, because lemmy is still developing better moderation tools.
I understand the impetus, but the execution seems to be extremely flawed. If I’m being flagged for mass downvoting, then it flags people who vote no more than around 20-30 times per day. I dont use lemmy a lot, I just browse maybe once or twice a day.
I thought this was something worth mentioning, because it fit the community so obviously. but honestly, after this post, being hounded by the mod of this forum and the twat who wrote the shitty broken script, I’m gonna go back to lurking.
Lemmings sure do have as much of an issue or more with the upvote/downvote system.
Its used really poorly and more of just a litmas test for same think.
Truly the title of lemming is appropriate, doubly so since people will likely quote the myth of it here thinking it makes them somehow not a victim of lemming behaviour as used colloquially.
no idea who these guys are, but I’ve not been systematically downvoting anyone.
edit:
ironic :D
all seem to be dubvee.org, is this a potential federation issue?
edit 2: also trans rights, BLM, free Palestine, Ukraine is a sovereign nation, bigotry is wrong. just to be clear, I see a lot of people complaining about being banned and their shitty rhetoric reveals them. I try to be an ally, these bans are not warranted, likely a butthurt right winger.
A bot was likely involved somewhere in the process (and with tons of potential for false positives), possibly even if it picked up something outside of dubvee. Though that is not the automated message (and I suspect they’d stand behind it even if it were a low amount of votes).
Not sure if it’s what you meant, but some of the bans like this stop all of activity from being visible to dubvee users.
Gonna be honest, whether it’s a bot or not, the idea of banning people for voting on posts or comments in some way you don’t like is deeply funny to me.
“YOU’RE INFLUENCING THE MADE-UP INTERNET POINTS THAT DON’T MATTER! EEEEEEK!”
even I’m not so terminally online.
One in that list has 5 or so members and attracts about -20 votes on every post and comment. It’s unpleasant to visit a community where every post and comment is at -15, even if they’re “imaginary points” it makes the community hard to sort
Since Jet started enforcing the “no mass down voting” rule automatically things sit at 0 to +5.
Exactly. It’s not about fake internet points it’s about making a safe space where the lurkers feel comfortable to contribute and participate without getting dogpiled.
It’s very much like growing a garden, it has to be tended to, weeded, and protected from local varmints for the young plants to flourish
The script doesn’t run on my personal community [email protected] because im the only poster and I know internet points aren’t real. I don’t need to encourage others to participate.
I mean if all someone does is go to communities to downvote every single post, it is clear that they are having an agenda, rather than interacting with the content in a fair way.
As there is an algorithm pushing things to “hot” or “active” in the local and all feeds based on votes, it does have an influence on the visibility of posts.
STOP USING THE BUTTONS WE GAVE YOU
The points are made up and thankfully we don’t have similar karma system as reddit, but your overall received upvote/downvote score ratio between a certain timespan is being evaluated by automod bots, because lemmy is still developing better moderation tools.
Info about the one bot I know: https://slrpnk.net/post/11069853
Edit: added word.
Reddit system is pretty oppressive right now, hate to see when lemmy reaches that point
I understand the impetus, but the execution seems to be extremely flawed. If I’m being flagged for mass downvoting, then it flags people who vote no more than around 20-30 times per day. I dont use lemmy a lot, I just browse maybe once or twice a day.
I thought this was something worth mentioning, because it fit the community so obviously. but honestly, after this post, being hounded by the mod of this forum and the twat who wrote the shitty broken script, I’m gonna go back to lurking.
Lemmings sure do have as much of an issue or more with the upvote/downvote system.
Its used really poorly and more of just a litmas test for same think.
Truly the title of lemming is appropriate, doubly so since people will likely quote the myth of it here thinking it makes them somehow not a victim of lemming behaviour as used colloquially.
So you would instead be ok with me writing a script that mass downvotes content I don’t like with a few dozen alts so that it doesn’t show up to you?
Because if you want a fediverse that can be exploited by bad actors, I could give it to you. And then you all can enjoy a Lemmy curated by me.
Sounds like someone being careless with their authority to me :D