• Nougat@fedia.io
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    Six weeks is all it would take to undo years of brainwashing from every direction? I doubt it.

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      It could very well be a case of “Never meet your childhood heroes”. Trump probably acted like a spoiled brat and the juror saw it first hand.

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        Trump did; it’s a matter of public record. He violated court instructions about blabbing to the media ten times, and was held in contempt by the judge twice.

        He repeatedly make false and misleading statements about the trial, the judge, the witnesses, and even the jury on social media and to the press in the entrance hall of the court building itself. The idiot just couldn’t stop himself.

        Had he been a regular citizen instead of a former president, he would have almost certainly done jail time just for his behavior during the trial.

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      Well, education in general… Which is why they are so absolutely desperate to dismantle our education system.

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        I honestly don’t think lawmakers put that level of thought into dismantling education. Votes are the only goal here.

        Somewhere along the line, it was Limbaugh for me, conservatives noticed that educated people tend to vote liberal. Well hell, how do we explain this?!

        The pundits launched a full-frontal attack on education and those “ivory tower liberals”. Who the fuck are these people to tell me how to think when I got the Bible and my gut feelings?!

        I watched this unfold. No one talked down on education in the 70s and 80s, nothing like the conservatives do now anyway. Then… Remember Rick Santorum baggin’ on Obama for having 2 degrees? While Santorum had 3. FFS, Obama taught Constitutional law at Harvard and the GOP acted like that made him less able to judge Constitutional matters.

        Now “education bad” gets votes, that easy. I don’t think there was a real plan. As always, the GOP rolls with what works emotionally. (While the Democrats think they can win on logical arguments.)

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      My understanding is that juries in America dont really deliberate on a verdict or a sentence. Thats up to the judge.

      Instead, I believe they’re presented with all the facts and arguments, then determine based on that information whether or not the the prosecution’s claims hold up.

      So its more of a “based on the facts you have been presented with, do you think the defendant did X”, rather than “should the defendant be punished for this crime?”

      Most Trump supporters understand that he’s a criminal, but believe that his actions are in service of the greater good. So in a situation like this the distinction between “do the facts line up” and “should he be punished” is an important one.

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        I was on a jury in Texas in 2019 and we were tasked with both.

        First part: Based on the facts you have been presented, do you think defendant did X?

        If yes

        Second part: You have determined that defendant did X. Now determine the punishment

        That second part was by far the more difficult of the two