Liberals don’t care. Socialists / progressives do care. Bernie and AOC have consistently fought to expand class consciousness and to fight against the growing wealth disparity
You know, I see people like you saying this stuff and I guess I don’t understand it. WHO are you advocating for to do the thing(s) you want? I would like specific names you would put forward.
I’m not politically educated enough to know who these others are that someone like you would recommend, but I do see a lot of complaining and not enough solutions being presented so that someone like me could learn about them.
Anarchism. I have zero faith in government and my beliefs have only gotten stronger and stronger as I’ve gotten older.
There’s no one in government I trust. AOC is neolib larping as a progressive/ social democrat. They’re all still liberals and don’t actually threaten capital.
I don’t personally think anarchism is the right thing based on the definition of anarchy but I get your line of thinking. A legit real, physical resistance is probably needed.
I have zero faith in our American government as well. They want to status quo and don’t want to give up their power.
Well you failed, you got just as much fascism because liberals create the conditions that enable fascism and do nothing to stop it because that would offend their capitalist donors. Read a history book instead of smugly scolding the left for your failures.
People can complain without giving a solution. Just because they don’t know what the way to solve it is, doesn’t mean they have no right to air their grievances
Unless of course, you also want to control their free speech and dissent from the party is seen as abhorrent for you
I never said I want to control their free speech. I said I wanted to know what their solution was because they are complaining about the solutions that are currently in play.
Someone can absolutely be angry and if there is no solution known and you just need to rant, then just…say that? At least I understand that line of thinking of knowing there is a problem without knowing the answer, but at least admit that.
Sadly it seems like 95% just want to rant.
I don’t know enough about AOC to say fraud or not. But it doesn’t actually matter. Trump is the biggest fraud there is. He still is getting people what they asked for (conservative supreme court, abortion stuf…). So AOC could be a fruad and still do what we want for her own gain. So I think she is currently the most likely to pick up the bernie tourch. But the dems establishment will fight against her. So it will be a long short. The republican establishment got caught sleeping with trump. They didn’t think he had a chance, and didn’t fight hard enough. The dem establishment won’t be sleeping at the wheel thanks to that. And dems also have a higher bar for the integrity of thier candidates. So it will be an uphill climb. AOC probably won’t even try it.
Liberals don’t care. Socialists / progressives do care. Bernie and AOC have consistently fought to expand class consciousness and to fight against the growing wealth disparity
The “liberals” you speak of are just conservatives larping as liberals
The word for a liberal that cares about class consciousness is “Error: undefined. Did you mean socialist?”
Isn’t AOC a Democrat?
I’ll give Bernie a pass although he’s a milquetoast ineffectual social democrat. AOC is a fraud.
You know, I see people like you saying this stuff and I guess I don’t understand it. WHO are you advocating for to do the thing(s) you want? I would like specific names you would put forward.
I’m not politically educated enough to know who these others are that someone like you would recommend, but I do see a lot of complaining and not enough solutions being presented so that someone like me could learn about them.
Anarchism. I have zero faith in government and my beliefs have only gotten stronger and stronger as I’ve gotten older.
There’s no one in government I trust. AOC is neolib larping as a progressive/ social democrat. They’re all still liberals and don’t actually threaten capital.
Thank you.
I don’t personally think anarchism is the right thing based on the definition of anarchy but I get your line of thinking. A legit real, physical resistance is probably needed.
I have zero faith in our American government as well. They want to status quo and don’t want to give up their power.
There are many different kinds of anarchy, I can assure you the common definition of “chaos” is inaccurate.
And anarchy is achieved by complaining about all government options online?
And what is achieved by voting for democrats? Fascism?
It’s a small action to help less get fascism. It’s arguably more effective than manifesting anarchism
Well you failed, you got just as much fascism because liberals create the conditions that enable fascism and do nothing to stop it because that would offend their capitalist donors. Read a history book instead of smugly scolding the left for your failures.
Good luck with your strategy of … checks notes… doing nothing
It’s honestly amusing
People can complain without giving a solution. Just because they don’t know what the way to solve it is, doesn’t mean they have no right to air their grievances
Unless of course, you also want to control their free speech and dissent from the party is seen as abhorrent for you
I never said I want to control their free speech. I said I wanted to know what their solution was because they are complaining about the solutions that are currently in play.
Someone can absolutely be angry and if there is no solution known and you just need to rant, then just…say that? At least I understand that line of thinking of knowing there is a problem without knowing the answer, but at least admit that.
Sadly it seems like 95% just want to rant.
I don’t know enough about AOC to say fraud or not. But it doesn’t actually matter. Trump is the biggest fraud there is. He still is getting people what they asked for (conservative supreme court, abortion stuf…). So AOC could be a fruad and still do what we want for her own gain. So I think she is currently the most likely to pick up the bernie tourch. But the dems establishment will fight against her. So it will be a long short. The republican establishment got caught sleeping with trump. They didn’t think he had a chance, and didn’t fight hard enough. The dem establishment won’t be sleeping at the wheel thanks to that. And dems also have a higher bar for the integrity of thier candidates. So it will be an uphill climb. AOC probably won’t even try it.