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    Now watch the Republican Party of “Law and Order”nominate a convicted felon to be the next president

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      You have to understand that this isn’t ironic to them. To them, this was not a legitimate trial and trumped up charges, if you’ll pardon the pun.

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          Right, there can’t be a legitimate trial because everything is “politicized” and “a witch hunt”.

          Weird how they can’t get DAs to bring charges against Hillary or Hunter though.

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        That’s because his supporters worship him as a new messiah and cannot conceive of him having actually committed a crime. Or they don’t care if he did or not.

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          They don’t care if he did. I’d argue most of his supporters in the party (Mike Johnson for example) know that he is a horrible person but will support him because he has energized a dormant portion of the voting population that can help them to gain and hold power. Trump himself isn’t even that bad, he’s a useful idiot who gives immense power to far right organizations like the heritage foundation.

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        The guy behind me that watches fox news all day because “he needs something to help him focus” immediately started spouting fox talking points as soon as the verdict was read. My younger coworkers were like, “no way, that’s crazy” to all his bs. I just had to say, “no that’s not true. I read the jury instructions and they don’t say that.” He moved onto insisting there was no evidence and Cohen perjured himself and at that point I was already on my way out the door.

        He’s Gen x, a landlord, new York exile, classic gabagool. Ugh.

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          I’d complain to HR that that guy is making the workplace hostile, if not outright tell him to shut the fuck up, but I get that that’s not a safe option at a lot of workplaces

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            Wrong. Talk to him every day. Hang out on some weekends, and become friends. Plant subtle notions of egalitarianism through your friendship and generosity. Ask him thought questions about his beliefs, but not in an accusatory manner. Teach him to actually think for himself, to keep an open mind, to seek evidence rather than faith to form convictions. Slowly show him by example what it means to be a good person who cares for their fellow human beings.

            Then you plant some drugs on him while at work, and call HR with your suspicions.

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        I can dream. I guess there’s some consolation to his mind slowly becoming his prison. If anyone deserves dementia, it’s this traitor

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          Asshole kept comparing himself to Capone…

          Let’s give him what he wants!

          Sentence his ass to 11 years & a roaring case of neurosyphilis.

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            Something tells me the latter has already occurred.

            Those spirochetes are leaving hole like a cork screw in his brain.

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        I happened to be in my mother’s house when she called me to look at it live and there was zero mention on CNN of whether or not he would serve time over it. Sentencing in July.

        Anyone know likelihood of jail time?

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          Slim chance. It’s his first offence (first conviction anyway) and a non violent crime. Can’t see the judge jailing him, especially given the logistics involved with the Secret Service having to protect him.

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            Cohen served time for this exact same crime in the exact same state. I think he was sentenced to 3 years and did 1.5 due to covid early release. That was also his first felony.

            It’s fully possible he gets jail time.

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          If one is being objective and not paying attention to his former job or publicity, he’s a first time offender convicted of non-violent offenses with a business footprint that makes him low risk for probation violation.
          He would also place a burden on the penal system if incarcerated, and his current state of having round the clock law enforcement presence further lowers the likelihood that he goes to prison.

          On the flip side, he has done a lot to actively antagonize the person who will be mostly in charge of his fate, and he’s got a good month to build a body of evidence that says he’ll immediately disrespect probation.

          So almost certainly not, but it’s not as close to zero as you would expect for a former president.

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            Cohen got prison time for the same exact crime, also a first offense. To my mind, being a former president should make them hold to to a higher standard, not a lesser one.

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              Cohen was convicted of tax evasion, bank fraud, and campaign finance crimes. Trump was not charged with any of these. So not the same crimes.

              I don’t recall hearing a lot of evidence that Trump conspired with Cohen to evade Cohen’s income taxes, or to lie to Cohen’s bank.

              I don’t think Trump is capable of making illegal campaign contributions to his own campaign. There are no limits on self funding an election campaign in this country.

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                  Negative. Trump was convicted of general business record crimes. Now these business record crimes are predicted in some other underlying crimes (including the campaign finance ones) that were not charged in the New York court. Trump was not charged with those underlying crimes, and he was not proven to be guilty of them. He was shown to be guilty in the business records case that sits on top.

                  Finally, I want to restate that Trump cannot ever be guilty of the same campaign violation that Cohen was convicted of, for a simple reason: like any American he is allowed to make unlimited contributions to his own campaign.

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    I’m googling “Trump rule 34” but can’t find anything related to his trial. Can you link some relevant article?

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      Turn off SafeSearch. SafeSearch is a tool by the WOKE corporations to stop the SNOWFLAKES from seeing REAL news, learning the TRUTH and freaking out so that they DETRANSITION their GENDER

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    Count #1: Guilty

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        Count #17: Guilty

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            Again? Sure

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    When the GOP sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are convicted felons.

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      Couldn’t that be said of Biden? I’m not trying to make this partisan but only trying to posit a hypothesis. Democratic processes do not select qualified people.

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    An earlier article said the Trump team was hoping for a hung jury.

    Guilty all 34 counts.

    Certainly was a hung jury. Hung like a horse!

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      In NY, even if he’s sentenced to prison, it’s up to the judge’s discretion whether he has to report to prison while awaiting appeal…and we all know he’s going to appeal.

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              This is exactly why Judges have been so lenient on him. None of them want to go from country clubbing to having firsthand knowledge of the witness protection program.

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                I disagree with that. The judges need to be a bit lenient with him so nobody can say that the judge was biased against him. This was sort of frustrating to those of us who saw the judge as being too nice to Trump, but its now a lot harder to say he was gunning to get him convicted.

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    Conservative comments on this joyous event can be divided into three groups.

    Group 1: how dare the government do this to our golden god!?

    Group 2: this is good for Trump’s campaign for reasons

    Group 3: the demonrats are going to say mean things about us

    Note that none of these are “oh man, I might have been wrong to support him.” The complete absence of regret coupled with severe delusions around trump are more than slightly distressing in the long term.

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          Remember when Clinton lost the election because the FBI didn’t find anything on her assistant’s laptop?

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            I mean she could have spent a weekend in Michigan. That was an unforced error.

            She could have addressed her relationship with Goldman Sachs, and all the other banks that fucked over the entirety of the American people during the housing crisis that she earned millions upon millions giving “speeches” to.

            She could have made an olive branch to the progressive caucus.

            She could have not said “Sit down and shut up” to BLM activists.

            There are a lot of things she could have done.

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    Holy crap… Did you guys read the bottom bit about Georgia voters?

    "Another man Bob, playing with his bluegrass band outside a café, was more sure. He wanted a positive outcome for Donald Trump and said a conviction would not change his mind. What would?

    “If he was convicted of murder, I’d be like that’s not a guy I want to go for!” "

    Not surprised, tbh, but I still find it ridiculous to read.