As an Android user, how do you propose I watch? I’m aware that you released to some Android TV devices a few years ago, you haven’t released to the Android OS yet and as a Chromecast user I’m still out of luck.
You’re ignoring a huge section of the market, so go fuck yourself Apple. You don’t get to ignore users and then complain that no one is watching.
Do you remember when Game of Thrones was only available via HBO Go, which was only available via iOS devices and then Game of Thrones was the most pirated TV show? I FUCKING WONDER WHY???
I’ve (somehow?) watched a number of Apple shows and they are good shows. Mythic Quest, Shrinking, Severance. I’m you’re target audience, it’s time you pay attention to that audience.
You’re not picking me up now, I’ve already found “other methods” but you can win me back if you make it easier. It’s going to take some time, but time to get started.
The reason is Apple is not in the streaming business, it’s in the hardware business and sales business.
Apple is not trying to get you to just join it’s streaming service. It’s trying to get you to buy it’s hardware so you’re in it’s ecosystem so it gets 1/3 of everything you spend on content and services. It’s the ultimate route in upselling.
You buy an Apple TV device, you watch some of their shows but also you buy some apps, and you sign up for other services (who have to pay apple for access), maybe you buy content through iTunes.
Apple wants you using Apple TV, and get an IPhone and a Mac and tablet etc. If you’re not on an Apple device they don’t want you because you’re able to spend money elsewhere.
Apples whole business is vendor lock-in. They just lock you in a gilded cage so you don’t realise you’re a prisoner. And they make you pay for the gilding.
$20bn is nothing in the scale of Apples ecosystem.
They are more and more in the cloud data subscription business instead, utilizing their closed ecosystem and then using the data for their own advertising side hustle like google (though at least they don’t sell the data to the lowest bidder like google)
I don’t know if many people have switched to an iPhone recently, but my mother did.
An iPhone gives you 1 GB of iCloud storage “free” and automatically force-enables icloud backup for everything on the phone like photos, videos, contacts, etc… So that it is immediately full and then gives you almost constant big warnings and reminders that you will lose all of your data and there is a problem with your phone unless you pay 5€ per month to upgrade your iCloud storage.
It is a royal pain to use a different backup service instead.
Apple also artificially caps storage on their phones and laptops (256GB on their 1100€ macbook air model in 2024? 512 GB on their 2000€ macbook pro model??) And push iCloud and iCloud plus hard, just like Microsoft is doing with their horrible OneDrive decisions and baking in “One drive save” as default in all of their apps.
Long-time Ars reader/subscriber here. They’re a pretty source for English language tech news. I am particularly fond of their reporting on tech adjacent public policy issues (US centrism notwithstanding).
One area where they are weak is taking a critical look at Apple. They keep promoting the notion that Apple is somehow different.
They did report on Apple’s censorship of steaming content on AI (due to the upcoming release of Apple intelligence) and critiques of the CCP, but beyond the initial reporting it’s like nothing happened.
They all use Apple products, nothing wrong with that they have excellent products, but you would think that a tech news site would have at least one or two journalists who use Windows/Android/Linux full time.
It’s almost as if they need a “hero company” in their lives and can’t deal with the notion that all these tech megacorps are the same; sketchy, dishonest and corrupt.
No, the issue is that someone else requested Chromecast support and you claimed it was discontinued. Just the branded dongle is, and even then it was essentially resold with AndroidTV installed.
Because that article is from August and Apple has had YEARS to implement it. Also they’re just discontinuing the Chromecast device, not the Chromecast protocol which means if I bought this new device I could use every single app I use right now in the exact same way I have it right now. EXCEPT Apple TV would require remote navigation.
Oh, I already ranted over in https://lemmy.world/post/22226162 first but,
As an Android user, how do you propose I watch? I’m aware that you released to some Android TV devices a few years ago, you haven’t released to the Android OS yet and as a Chromecast user I’m still out of luck.
You’re ignoring a huge section of the market, so go fuck yourself Apple. You don’t get to ignore users and then complain that no one is watching.
Do you remember when Game of Thrones was only available via HBO Go, which was only available via iOS devices and then Game of Thrones was the most pirated TV show? I FUCKING WONDER WHY???
I’ve (somehow?) watched a number of Apple shows and they are good shows. Mythic Quest, Shrinking, Severance. I’m you’re target audience, it’s time you pay attention to that audience.
You’re not picking me up now, I’ve already found “other methods” but you can win me back if you make it easier. It’s going to take some time, but time to get started.
The reason is Apple is not in the streaming business, it’s in the hardware business and sales business.
Apple is not trying to get you to just join it’s streaming service. It’s trying to get you to buy it’s hardware so you’re in it’s ecosystem so it gets 1/3 of everything you spend on content and services. It’s the ultimate route in upselling.
You buy an Apple TV device, you watch some of their shows but also you buy some apps, and you sign up for other services (who have to pay apple for access), maybe you buy content through iTunes.
Apple wants you using Apple TV, and get an IPhone and a Mac and tablet etc. If you’re not on an Apple device they don’t want you because you’re able to spend money elsewhere.
Apples whole business is vendor lock-in. They just lock you in a gilded cage so you don’t realise you’re a prisoner. And they make you pay for the gilding.
$20bn is nothing in the scale of Apples ecosystem.
They are more and more in the cloud data subscription business instead, utilizing their closed ecosystem and then using the data for their own advertising side hustle like google (though at least they don’t sell the data to the lowest bidder like google)
I don’t know if many people have switched to an iPhone recently, but my mother did.
An iPhone gives you 1 GB of iCloud storage “free” and automatically force-enables icloud backup for everything on the phone like photos, videos, contacts, etc… So that it is immediately full and then gives you almost constant big warnings and reminders that you will lose all of your data and there is a problem with your phone unless you pay 5€ per month to upgrade your iCloud storage.
It is a royal pain to use a different backup service instead.
Apple also artificially caps storage on their phones and laptops (256GB on their 1100€ macbook air model in 2024? 512 GB on their 2000€ macbook pro model??) And push iCloud and iCloud plus hard, just like Microsoft is doing with their horrible OneDrive decisions and baking in “One drive save” as default in all of their apps.
I think you’re 100% correct. I’m bothered by the article dancing around this by using the word “marketing”.
I wish the article pushed back against Apple and pointed out their obviously missing flaw, even if it’s part of their strategy.
Long-time Ars reader/subscriber here. They’re a pretty source for English language tech news. I am particularly fond of their reporting on tech adjacent public policy issues (US centrism notwithstanding).
One area where they are weak is taking a critical look at Apple. They keep promoting the notion that Apple is somehow different.
They did report on Apple’s censorship of steaming content on AI (due to the upcoming release of Apple intelligence) and critiques of the CCP, but beyond the initial reporting it’s like nothing happened.
They all use Apple products, nothing wrong with that they have excellent products, but you would think that a tech news site would have at least one or two journalists who use Windows/Android/Linux full time.
It’s almost as if they need a “hero company” in their lives and can’t deal with the notion that all these tech megacorps are the same; sketchy, dishonest and corrupt.
Kinda funny too when Android has something like a 70%+ global market share.
Apple TV is available for pretty much every major TV platform. Chromecast has been abandoned by Google so why would Apple support it?
You are conflating the Chromecast device with Chromecast the tech.
Chromecast the tech still exists. I wouldn’t support it, but thats not the same as it being discontinued.
So the issue is that Apple TV is available but it doesn’t support Google’s Airplay equivalent?
No, the issue is that someone else requested Chromecast support and you claimed it was discontinued. Just the branded dongle is, and even then it was essentially resold with AndroidTV installed.
Because that article is from August and Apple has had YEARS to implement it. Also they’re just discontinuing the Chromecast device, not the Chromecast protocol which means if I bought this new device I could use every single app I use right now in the exact same way I have it right now. EXCEPT Apple TV would require remote navigation.