• skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de
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    11 days ago

    Luigi is a rich libertarian techbro bordering on AI cultist. he likes Thiel and Musk, he thinks that human immortality is feasible, that AI will outsmart us all real soon, and bought in in a bunch of other tpot/longtermist/ea horseshit hook line and sinker. he also only started caring about state of healthcare industry when it touched him personally. he’s not leftist in any useful meaning of this word

    this is his twitter https://xcancel.com/PepMangione these are his takes: https://xcancel.com/PepMangione/status/1780863519677940189#m https://xcancel.com/PepMangione/status/1750041444239434013#m https://xcancel.com/PepMangione/status/1600875886727016449#m this one is pinned tweet

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      11 days ago

      I don’t know if recently we switched sides and socialism became equivalent with primitivism. But industrialization and embrace of science a technology was a big part of socialism when it started in the xix century.

      I don’t buy the primitivism take, sorry. It’s sad that people don’t buy pregnant sonic commissions $80 a piece in etsy because some open source AI does a better job for free. But it has nothing to do with socialism or the struggle of the working class.

      I just say that the embrace of primitivism and the reject of progress will lead to conservative and reactionary ideologies, not progress and certainly not socialism. Without job automation working class lives would be miserable, there is not even a chance of socialism without technology.

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        (literally writing this from lab) i’m not calling him a techbro because i have some kind of disdain for tech workers, i’m calling him a techbro because he’s chasing unviable or harmful ideas or tech from old scifi that his cult (or at least was influenced by ideas typically associated with that cult) adopted as a part of doctrine. things like cryonics, some sketchy supplements that are supposed to give extreme life extension, or AI and quantum computing (because they think simulation = actual thing, and they hope to achieve immortality with AI). you might start to think that i’m batshit crazy just by explaining it, but i assure you it’s them, and these people will be part of american government really soon. start there https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/LessWrong

        in no place i’m saying “technology bad”, i’m saying there’s plenty of harmful tech being pushed for profit and Luigi went full in in that sector. other than healthcare, that is

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      11 days ago

      he also only started caring about state of healthcare industry when it touched him personally.

      So just like about 2/3’s of humanity, huh?

      Further, Guevara himself has a pretty shitty history with hating on LGBTQ+ for no good fuckin reason, so I’d say it actually fits pretty well. He was a pretty shitty leftist as well. He was also well educated and a physician. Not so different than Mangione, huh?

      Any group which still believes in “strong men” being saviors doesn’t actually believe in things like equality and equity.

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        i dunno, he doesn’t seem as someone who was “against the system”. We are not flowing liquids that intermingle with each other, sometimes we have to use labels. anyways, either A) this twitter was a front and he was bullshitting or B)He may of “snapped” and changed his worldview on things.

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          10 days ago

          Purity tests like this is also what’s landed us in this divided position. He did something good even if he’s flawed, and that’s enough.

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            10 days ago

            I’m not saying that that we are divided, just that we don’t know the full picture of luigi yet. If some one stabbed you in the back, then helped you stab some one else in the back, would you trust that person not to stab you in the back again? its not division, its a simple level of trust that needs to be built

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              10 days ago

              Then we were talking about two different issues.

              With that said, I’d absolutely trust my life in the hands of Luigi over the hands of Brian Thompson.

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                10 days ago

                I wouldn’t trust either until i learn more about luigi, but yes if i was put in a room with a gun to my head it would be luigi.