IT workers aren’t “Tech Bros”. Real Tech Bros are usually people with zero knowledge trying to profit from IT workers. They use them to build their scams.
Just to add to your point, statistically tech workers are disproportionately democrat voters. I’m not sure about higher ups, but it would surprise me if they were disproportionately pro-trump
Not on H1B they not.
(as they can’t even vote)
I wouldn’t be surprised if they flipped when the money started rolling in. My guess is:
Democrat -> “Independent” Libertarian voting Republican -> “Fiscally conservative” Republican
There is already a strong “I did this on my own” and “i make enough money to not need a union” sentiment in IT as an industry. Plenty of people that are “experts in one thing, so I must be an expert in everything.” It is a field that favors autodidacts, so these myths self reinforce very easily.
The majority are left leaning, but it’s not an overwhelming majority. Maybe 60/40. This policy will fuck conservative IT people, for sure.
“Tech slaves apply here”
H1-B visa holders are essentially indentured servants. If they lose their job, they get deported and then it’s back to living 12 to a room in Bangalore.
I’m honestly surprised that Elon isn’t just pushing that angle as a positive.
Not just H1-B, nearly all issued work visas are like that.
Tying a visa to an employer is not indentured servitude.
You call it whatever you want to call it. “You work at this specific company or we kick you out of the country” is as exploitive and ultra-capitalistic as you can get.
It can be, but isn’t a guarantee. All countries do this to an extent, some do it better than others. You calling it the wrong thing trying to drive a point home with hyperbole isn’t helpful to anyone.
“All countries” do not have the U.S. H1-B visa program, which is what we are discussing.
All countries have some sort of work for visa program, which by itself is not indentured servitude. And given there are non ultra-capitalistic countries that also have it, the practice is also not “as far as one can get”.
Hell, to group the US 's visa program in with the ones that literally end with slavery (and are actually like what you described) is just poor form.
Again, we are specifically talking about one country’s visa program and you are downplaying the draconian nature of it with a lot of dodging and whataboutism.
I’m not doing either of those things. You made a claim by misunderstanding terms for hyperbole. I said that your claim isn’t true. You backed up your claim with more hyperbole. I rebutted that with how it’s standard practice globally and even in within a larger scope is a more reasonable standard.
QED, the US visa program is not indentured servitude, by colloquial or exact definitions, and not ultra-capitalistic by any stretch. These are not whataboutism or dodging. They directly address your statements.
I wonder when the magards will realize they’ve been played for the fools they are. It would be funny - and a little bit reassuring - if they massively turned against their racehorse before Jan 20…
