• Scolding7300@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    In X’s EU user base report consisting of data from February to July 2023, Musk’s social media platform had 112.2 million monthly active users in the EU. In the following six month period from August 2023 to January 2024, that number dropped to 111.4 million users.

    That’s a minuscule drop % wise

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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      1 day ago

      You are a MAU if you use the platform once a month by opening the app by mistake, and also if you doom scroll for 10 hours a day.

      You continue to be one if you go from one to the other. Musk has been cherry picking stats before, so what they release will be the nicest numbers they can find.

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        1 day ago

        Here is the data they are forced to report to the EU:

        Logged In X Users 61.8M Logged Out Guests 49.6M Total 111.4M

        https://transparency.x.com/en/reports/amars-in-the-eu/amars-in-the-eu-aug-24

        “Logged out Guests” is everyone who gets linked to a thread, who was send an video on Twitter and so on. And also take a look at the definition of the logged in users:

        EU Active Recipients of the Service - Average between August 1st 2023 - January 31 2024

        So you do count as active EU user if you have logged in between August and January with an IP address from the EU. That should even include some tourists.

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        Yep. I’m in MAU numbers because I logged in twice this month to run Sky Follower Bridge. After the API debacle my average usage went from hours a day to zero minutes per day.

        Even with the most favourable, most meaningless statistic he can pull he still can’t show growth or even staying in place.

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      I see you attended the same business school as Elon. Yeah, great observation: businesses hate growth, and want to see miniscule declines, it shows strength!!

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      2 days ago

      X’s most recent report, covering February to July 2024, showed that its user base in the EU fell once more to 105.9 million.

      And these are datapoints they release themselves, 3rd party data points hint at bigger losses.

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        You only need to hop on for 30s or so to realize why people wouldn’t feel inclined to spend time there unless it to quickly bathe one’s self in fascism and misinformation.

        Sort of what America will feel like if Elon gets his scummy hands on political power.

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          How would that make him a non-billionare?

          He paid $44B for Twitter, even if it completely failed and he could realize no value from any of the assets. $44B is a small portion of his wealth.

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        You’re assuming he gives a shit about how much profit it’s making.

        It’s not a public company, it’s now his private playground to try to get millions of people to see only the “free speech” he wants them to see, and exert political influence.

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          He’d love to also milk it financially, but that’s actually really hard to do with Twitter.

          You could say though as a capitalist he also gets a return on investment by manipulating public opinion in favour of conservatism.

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            I don’t think he even cares that much about money, except that it’s useful/needed for the things he wants to accomplish.

            Unfortunately, the things he wants have gotten steadily shittier and shittier and more disgusting over the last 15 years.

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              You don’t get to become a billionaire, let alone the wealthiest person on earth, without being a greedy fuck. Remember he never actually wanted to buy Twitter, only tried hard to spin the narrative after being sued into it.

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        It’s even worse in social media, because most users that sign up stop using it at some point.

        So the product can die pretty quick if they don’t generate new users, especially when they alienate old ones.

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          Indeed. Active users (say, used within the past month) is a much better metric.

          I often wonder about this for many (especially older) YouTube channels - your channel is 15 years old, how many of your 500k subscribers actually still watch or even have active accounts?

          I wonder what subscriber growth rate a typical YouTube channel needs just in order to maintain a consistent level of watchers?

          • WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Pretty sure YouTube has started unsubscribing people after long inactivity. I know some people have complained that it is difficult to follow infrequent contributors due to that now.

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              Is that if the channel is inactive, or the viewer’s account? It seems like if you watch anything else, it’s not a problem, but if you’re only subscribed to 1 infrequent channel you might have that problem?

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                1 day ago

                From how it was described, I think it happens when you don’t watch something on their channel for a long time, either by the creator not uploading new stuff or the viewer not keeping up.

                The problem was noticed by people trying to follow users like OnlyUseMeBlade who is unstable and has only been posting once every six months or so, but there is still a lot of interest about his potential return.