• mathemachristian[he]@lemm.ee
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      Both already had a vegan community and hexbear is vegan by default (carnists need to tag their post if it contains meat, dairy etc.)

  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    As a vegan tankie, I’m more than happy to welcome anyone who is passionate about justice and equality. If you think for yourself rather than just following and upholding arbitrary social norms, you’re going to get pushback from the people who believe in those norms. Whether the norms in question are the needless industrialized mass slaughter of animals, or the needless industrialized mass slaughter of the victims of US imperialism. And it’s much easier to have meaningful, higher level discussions among people who share certain common values, so you’re not having to constantly refute the same shitty low effort talking points over and over.

    Please, keep pushing your vegan users our way.

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    I’m actually rather thankful for this entire drama, or rather my cats are.
    I was ‘this’ close to forgetting some ham for their once in a while treat. Thanks, /c/vegan!

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    I am enjoying watching vegans battle everyone. Most people are not prepared for a conversation on veganism. Vegans have been refining these arguments for a decade now and can present clear sharp moral stances with a counter to everything you have to say. They also have the easier side to argue.

    Im not a vegan but I’m not talking shit to a vegan for fear of getting dragged into a veganism debate.

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      Vegans have been refining these arguments for a decade now and can present clear sharp moral stances with a counter to everything you have to say

      Lol they fuck they can, they couldn’t even properly present and defend their own sources.

      https://lemm.ee/comment/14432604

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    I like and admire vegans.

    I probably should be vegan because I am lucky enough to have the economic privilege to support that kind of lifestyle.

    But, as with many other communities centered around lifestyle topics, I would never want to participate in a vegan community. Lifestyle communities always become insular and echo-chambery, so you become a pariah if you don’t properly adhere to 100% of the community consensus behaviors.

    Not just vegans, but you see it happen with fitness communities, diy/home decor, a lot of hobbies, etc.

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      Abstaining from animal murder and torture is admirable and something I should do OTOH some internet commenters are mean about it

      I wonder why they would be mean…

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          If your belief lives or dies because of some internet comment it won’t last anyway.

          Edit: as in, what sustains it is the actual moral implications of a non-vegan lifestyle. I was convinced to go vegan by internet comments like this.

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            See here’s what’s really really funny, people over and over again say “man if the vegan people who were trying to convince me could just not be gigantic assholes about it then maybe it would be easier to join their community”

            And then you come along and are a gigantic asshole about it and prove the entire point.

            Super solid representation, 5/7, perfection.

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              thing is, it’s a philosophy of empathy and compassion. you don’t really join a.commmunity. there are no V cards I’m afraid.

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          I was going to stop torturing animals, but some mean vegan said some words that hurt my feelings.

          So now I’m going to eat two burgers!

          chortle!

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          That’s not the goal. They attack people because that makes them feel better. Animals? Who cares. Definitely not them.

  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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    Isn’t this something that the fediverse was explicitly designed to support?
    We’re making fun of them for making use of one of the foundational features of the platform?

    If they don’t like it there, they can move again. And again. Or host their own instance.

    Idk what this creepy vicarious butthurt is about, or why it has become so popular.

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        If they choose to migrate to another instance, it will likely be a more extremist instance with poor moderation that has been significantly defederated.

        In theory this is how it should work, but in practice the toxic people tend to move to general purpose more laissez-faire places like .world or .ml, which makes de-federating and cutting off 30% of all users a difficult decision for anyone trying to have a community.

        The answer is less centralization, but that can’t be forced. beehaw.org (for example) made the decision to cut off .world and they are better for it. But they are a large-ish instance in their own right.

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        One study estimated 1% of cat owners feed their cat a vegan diet. Why do you think that might be? Are they all extremist animal abusers? Or is it possible you had an assumption that turned out to be wrong and now don’t know how to reconcile?