Google sent out a notification that it will automatically opt you into using content from your email campaigns to help Google know what to show in Google Search, Shopping, and Maps. It will look for content around “new arrivals, sales or ongoing promotions, social media profiles, and others,” Google said.
I think people are confused, this has nothing to do with gmail as far as I can tell.
Google is going to websites and subscribing itself to their newsletters. This is not related to consumers.
It’s still good to move away from gmail and google in general, just pointing out that it’s not scanning your gmail inbox or something like that.
Anyone got a any opinions (or a link to a review) of the different options? Proton and tuta come up, are there others worth considering?
I understand that I’ll probably need to pay (otherwise I’m the product) and encryption / security is good, but the thing that keeps with Gmail (apart from inertia) is that it feels quick and easy to use. My only real experience of non Gmail sites over the last two decades have been terrible but mandatory work webmail systems that are slow, clunky and look a decade out of date. Or Hotmail, which sucks for a variety of reasons.
Startmail (from the Startpage folks) has been fine for me. You pay for it, you can put your domain on it, you can do alias addresses, works with any IMAP client since it’s just IMAP ran by a (so far) competent company. Their web ui is fine, but ive only used it for initial setup. Besides Thunderbird on mobile I use Snappymail within Nextcloud and this works just fine as well. All I can say is it does what it says on the tin.
My only real experience of non Gmail sites over the last two decades have been terrible but mandatory work webmail systems that are slow, clunky and look a decade out of date.
Uh same, Outlook Web’s search function sucks so much compared to Gmail’s 😫
So basically just give me Gmail’s UX without the corporation pls. Do any of the competitors have similar search, filtering and tagging behaviour?
Mailspring desktop client has a pretty neat UI imo.
Don’t use webmail then? There are enough E-Mail tools on every OS.
Using email clients is fine on my primary devices, but I often have to use email on other people’s computers. I don’t really want to go back to carrying a usb of portable apps again. And some public computers have usb drive access disabled, understandably.
In general, encryption causes slow search which makes everything feel clunky. For this reason, I opted for a non-encrypted provider.
I now personally use Posteo since they have a strong privacy policy, but a more complete and user-friendly option might be Infomaniak. They offer free email, or a suite including 1TB cloud storage for €20 per year. They’re hosting in Switzerland.
and they’ll pay you for helping them out with their product right???
I finally just blew up my gmail the other week and not a moment to soon as it seems. Much happier with my new swiss provider.
Me, in 2005: Why would anyone use a service that scans your personal email for things to sell you?
Me 20 years later: . . so. . . tired
Most of us were fucking shitty teenagers when this shit was going down… I literally had nothing to hide haha
Then Google photos uploaded all my pictures into the cloud around 2015… It finally hit me the we are dealing with rapist culture in the tech companies
Deny the parasite profit and engagement
These people are your enemies, never forget
rapist culture
Louis Rossmann fan?
I have been guilty of enjoying his spazzing…
Just to clarify, “you” in this case refers to companies and marketers, not consumers. Looks like this news website is for marketers/SEO industry people.
So this is another headline designed to get a kneejerk reaction outta people.
Basically if I’m a store that sends out a weekly email to subscribers, Google will “read” that email for SEO purposes.
it’s the automatically opting in people have a problem with
100% agree. Should be opt-in per email.
But how do they know which email that might be? Do they even know which of my accounts are for business or personal use? If I send an email from my business email to a bunch of friends and relatives to plan a party, will Google assume those are subscribers and pull my party-planning content from my email and put that info… somewhere… on my business page? I don’t want them reading any of my emails, ever.
The email from Google was laughable in that it contained almost no info on how this process is supposed to work. All it means to me is that I don’t have control over my own content. This should have been opt-in instead of opt-out.
This has nothing to do with gmail or the emails you send/receive.
The process is googles search bot will subscribe google to marketing newsletters available on websites, it’s outlined in the linked post: “Google will either subscribe to your emails automatically or you can add [email protected] to your email lists and that will do it.”
I assume its more of it subscribes to your newsletter same as a user would, so when you send out the newsletter to “group 1”, the google thing is also on that mailing list.
And yes, should absolutely be opt-in, per mailing list, per email.
Yeah, because they’ve been doing this to us plebs for years now.
I’m so glad I made the choice to move away from Gmail and Google search a few years ago.
i want to get away from gmail but I can’t find a replacement that doesn’t cost a service fee to be reliable.
If you won’t pay cash, then you have to pay data.
ahhh. so I guess I just can’t use email anymore. got it!
edit: /s in case it was not obvious.
Would you provide a free mail service?
In general, no, you will not be provided services at no cost. If you want to go back to the post office, they will require you to buy stamps.
Tuta has a free tier.
As does Proton.
I went with Tuta though.
That’s how the world works unfortunately, someone has to pay for it
Look into infomaniak (yes, I know, silly name), but its a serious service and very up to par with Google Suite.
thank you. i feel like i’ve seen their name around but I wasn’t quite sure what they were about.
I would ask "was it this? https://beehaw.org/comment/4363681 "
because I found it in my notes by its website preview from when I saved it, but it seems someone deleted something and lemmy shit the bed again, and you dont have have a normal descriptive link like reddit does but only an internal database ID that does not refer to anything anymore…
the post title was “is this normal for domain name registrars to do.”, and something that infomaniak did
I would ask "was it this? https://beehaw.org/comment/4363681
I have this userscript that changes all Lemmy links to my home instance, so that comment still shows up here: https://lemmy.world/comment/15087567
Copying the content for further backup:
Since your goal is “to move to a European registrar” Porkbun is not for you.
https://hosting-checker.net/websites/porkbun.com “Webserver Amazon”
Here are some additional options. https://european-alternatives.eu/category/domain-name-registrar
https://1984.hosting/product/hosting/
I suggest you reach out to Infomaniak support and ask for an alternative method which is less invasive.
https://www.infomaniak.com/en/help
Try to make Infomaniak a better experience for everyone. Infomaniak claims to be “The Ethical Cloud” but they did not start business as a privacy company and have been learning over time. Help to teach them with one more customer story. Let us know what happens.
If no luck with Infomaniak helping, you can try to contact a different registrar before signing up to confirm they will accept your domain type and ask them what the process will be. Hold them accountable to whatever process they describe if you choose them.
