• This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Democrats have to be deft and diplomatic and do the right things all the time that somehow appeal to all the Americans (including Americans on opposite sides like Palestine supporters and Israel supporters) and they lose if they fumble even a little bit.

    Unlike the MAGA party of bigots who can’t lose no matter how much of dipshits they are.

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      7 hours ago

      I disagree. At the risk of oversimplifying, American voters tend to respect strength of conviction, even if they don’t always agree with the policy, over milquetoast candidates. That’s why Sanders attracted so many voters who went on to vote for the other party’s candidate in the general election. Democrats need to decide what they believe in, and say it long, loud, and proud.

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        5 hours ago

        They did seem quite unsure of what their values should be. I think thats a negative for some people that a persons values seem to change to match the audience. The pre-planned replies didnt help either. Kept hearing the same points almost to a word.

        Why’s it so hard to speak like a human being for the democrats? Make fun of trump all we want, his McDonalds video was not a bad look, it was personable.

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      9 hours ago

      Bro BFFR Dems had Dick and Liz Cheney endorsing her, exactly what part of their base is a war criminal and his nepo baby supposed to appeal to?

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        5 hours ago

        exactly what part of their base is a war criminal and his nepo baby supposed to appeal to?

        Centrists. There was a reason that when Democrats took the House and Senate in 2006, they didn’t stop being a rubber stamp for Cheney’s war.

      • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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        9 hours ago

        She also had Taylor Swift, Bernie Sanders, Obama, Mark Cuban, multple military generals endorsing her, among others.

        But sure, it was the Cheneys that outweighed everyone else. That’s the problem, not American voters who didn’t think ‘holy shit everyone across the sociopolitical landscape is coming together supporting her, trump is that much of a serious threat’.

        Great work👍

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          5 hours ago

          I dont think that everyone gives the same weight to those peoples opinions. Some see Obama as a war criminal, mark Cuban is in the billionaire class and is against business regulation, taylor swift is also a billionaire, and Beyonce is a billionaire as well?

          Bernie gave the same vote against tyranny stuff the democrats were saying. I dont recall him being excited about Kamala’s policy, was he?

          If the republicans are running on change, and the democrats are running on not changing, but most americans want things to change, it shouldnt be shocking which one wins.

          The democrats could have offered up a better idea to change the country but they didnt. They tried to scold and patronize people into voting for them instead.

          • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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            4 hours ago

            If the republicans are running on change, and the democrats are running on not changing, but most americans want things to change, it shouldnt be shocking which one wins.

            Most Americans are in for a rude awakening if they think the change republicans are proposing are the same change they want. Or maybe they do want wrecked economy, dismantled healthcare, and internment camps for ‘’‘illegals’‘’. Who the fuck knows.

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              4 hours ago

              Yes, it they still don’t want the status quo, so they would not have been happy either way. The point is that the party proposing a change can scoop up votes of those wishing for change, which is most people.

              Biden didn’t win on no change. He won on change from trumps presidency. Change wins. Proposals win. Stability is good, but if people don’t feel stability, like with runaway inflation, or a recent global pandemic, or a recent trump presidency, then saying things are stable and good is not a winner. They are not.

              • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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                3 hours ago

                The point is that the party proposing a change can scoop up votes of those wishing for change, which is most people.

                Shouldn’t we blame voters for not looking at what change is being proposed?

                Oh wait, many of them were being told she’s worse than Trump, going to start the next world war, jail white men, or other such nonsense on social media or podcasts.

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          7 hours ago

          I mean she chose to spend the last weeks essentially campaigning with the cheneys that’s different than just an endorsement when they star in dozens of rallies.

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          9 hours ago

          For real, all these people blaming democrats for not winning when billionaires were literally buying votes to not be taxed by democrats. Seems like a campaign.

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            5 hours ago

            Well, if anything it proves that Unions work. Unions of billionaire media moguls especially. Many (soft, wealthy) hands coming together, to push in collectively towards a common goal of eliminating the National Labor Relations Board, the EPA, the SEC, and the IRS… it’s kind of beautiful, in its way. (/s)

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          9 hours ago

          You’re in the headline, btw.

          It’s insane to me how Democrats keep appealing to the right, when their historically greatest turnout has been galvanizing their base like with Obama.

          And yes, a war criminal’s endorsement is more important to me than a pop star’s. One of them actually works in policy.