• Scubus@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    Ah, sorry. I misunderstood your argument. No, I would never replace a loved one with a “tool”. But replacing loved ones with tools was never something I was arguing for. Chatgpt is a very crude prototype for the type of AI I am referring to. And he didnt say chatgpt, he said “degenerative AI” but also stated “AI art”.

    The entire argument is centered around those who use or make ai art being “shitty people”, no exceptions. But that falls apart when you ever remotely analyze it. There are ethical ways to do the entire process.

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      20 hours ago

      But replacing loved ones with tools was never something I was arguing for.

      You are arguing in favor of replacing people, flesh and blood, with machines.

      Manual labor? Sure. I love post-scarcity.

      Art? Culture? My mom? Obscene. Profane, even. Morally reprehensible. We’re holding you back from recess until you learn to appreciate your classmates.

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        18 hours ago

        Nah, that is a false equivalence. Replacing “people” with machines is very different from replacing “bonds” with machines. You are not literally killing the people and replacing them with a robot. It’s a job.

        You are conflating replacing the job with literally replacing the person. And personal bonds are not jobs, nor are hobbies. You are not going to have someone or a robot play golf for you. Nor would you replace your mom.

        Art and culture are two different things, they are not replacing bonds. But i think the disconnect there comes solely from the current state of ai. Once it improves to the point of being indistinguishable as all technologies do, i think those will be seen as much less problematic outside of the lens of capitalism.

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          13 hours ago

          You are not literally killing the people and replacing them with a robot.

          … You think my position is that I think stable diffusion will kill people.

          Like Body Snatchers?

          To anyone still reading: This is ultimately why I didn’t go for the point-by-point essay post so many else did. How am I supposed to respond to this? Genuinely.

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            12 hours ago

            You asked me if id replace my mom with a robot despite knowing the answer would be no. How tf am i supposed to respond to that. How tf am i even supposed to do that. Ask bad questions, get bad answers.