But they did make it worse, their policies led directly to where the US is now.
It’s so fucking ridiculous!
In the past 30 years Dems were in power 2/3 of the time, so they very obviously did contribute to the state of affairs that led to Trump being elected twice!
Or if the country moved rightward regardless of what team the President represents, then it means voting in this system is only ceremonial and completely useless activity.
Either Dems are enablers of Fascists or voting is useless, there’s no third option.
twenty years ago people gave the Dems a super-majority; they used it to lock in the fascist policies of the Bush admin and give a massive hand out the wealthy.
911 kind of destroy any semblance of reason in the country. Everyone was angry. Tried to talk reason? Just look at Dixie chicks and boondocks version of MLK.
No, my friend, you’re wrong. The Washington Democrats do make it worse. They (most of them) are willing participants in making life worse for the average American, and they know it, and they don’t care.
25 years ago the Democrats won the election against Bush and then Gore gave up. They personally handed the presidency over to the republicans. Democrats like to lose even when they win. Then 21 years ago the Dems ran on a platform of “we’ll kill Muslims more efficiently than the Republicans.”
Democrats don’t want to win. Their primary purpose is to prevent a left from existing.
Also don’t forget Nancy Pelosi’s statement about the country needing a “strong republican party” last year. These people are ghouls and aren’t to be trusted.
Oh bet they need a strong gop. Of course they do they need thier boogie man. Without the gop guess who’s the most right wing popular party now? Can’t rack in that donation money without them.
The function of a ratchet is to make an object go in one direction more easily. Democrats fulfill a function in propeling the country rightward. This was arguably not true 80 years ago but post-Reagan they are part of a process of rightward movement. Voting for and legitimizing them is moving the country right and making things worse.
You need to zoom out. Imagine you’re looking back at this moment from 100 years in the future. If people said “the Dems won’t make it better but at least they won’t make it worse” and just kept the system going, do you think it will ever lead to progress? Will the whole system ever improve?
You need to look for a solution outside of that system. Stop looking for lesser evils in the ballot box. First, look to the people immediately around you and try to join local organizations that might be directly working to improve their conditions (soup kitchens, women’s shelters, etc). Then, organize labor: figure out how to join a union, if there isn’t one read the IWW (or any other big union near you) manual on organizing your workplace and find support to start organizing your workplace. Then from there, your objective should be to take the workers’ struggle to the national and international stage. Change doesn’t come from the ballot box, it comes from building alternative power structures ourselves.
I agree with all you said. No it won’t improve just give time for gop to age out. Since they are actively making things worse. Least dems aren’t trying that hard to deport people or remove renewables.
Though I think change could have happened if 20 mil people voted third party or for Harris instead of sleeping in. Seeing Trump lose twice would have been a great catalyst for changing gop.
The problem with having 365 million people or so in a sick society that encouraged and rewards destroying each other is that things get worse automatically.
Dems doing nothing makes things worse. Reps doing nothing makes things worse. Its a prisoners dilemma where the only winning move is to kill the cops and hope for the best.
If al gore won we’d have still invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, it would just be in bush jrs first term in 2004 that we invade Iraq.
Soooo Dems won’t make it better but least won’t make it worse. If 2 party then easy choice.
Shame people didnt do this 20 years ago and voted gop out of existence.
But they did make it worse, their policies led directly to where the US is now.
It’s so fucking ridiculous!
In the past 30 years Dems were in power 2/3 of the time, so they very obviously did contribute to the state of affairs that led to Trump being elected twice!
Or if the country moved rightward regardless of what team the President represents, then it means voting in this system is only ceremonial and completely useless activity.
Either Dems are enablers of Fascists or voting is useless, there’s no third option.
twenty years ago people gave the Dems a super-majority; they used it to lock in the fascist policies of the Bush admin and give a massive hand out the wealthy.
911 kind of destroy any semblance of reason in the country. Everyone was angry. Tried to talk reason? Just look at Dixie chicks and boondocks version of MLK.
That’s your excuse? Seriously?
“Shame people didn’t vote Dem 20 years ago, the gop wouldn’t be around!”
“They did”
“Yeah, but 9/11 had happened only a decade earlier”
excuse? Hope maybe but now I doubt it with young boys being Tate trolls.
Naa country hadn’t healed yet for 10 years after. Now? I dont think 911 is a factor but nation has other issues made apparent by Trump.
So why did you say "Soooo Dems won’t make it better but least won’t make it worse. If 2 party then easy choice.
Shame people didnt do this 20 years ago and voted gop out of existence."?
Obama oversaw the largest decrease in black household wealth in american history
Not because of housing crisis? I seriously don’t know what specifically he did.
https://jacobin.com/2017/12/obama-foreclosure-crisis-wealth-inequality
No, my friend, you’re wrong. The Washington Democrats do make it worse. They (most of them) are willing participants in making life worse for the average American, and they know it, and they don’t care.
Well we know it. A few dinos are collaborating for power trips. I recall a few ruining quite a few plans.
Any arguments for harm reduction were gunned down in the streets of Gaza.
"Gaza? never heard of it.
Lalalalalalalallaal cant hear you. Head in sand.
Genocide? Innocent lives?
No no no insurgents even that baby and those reporting and uh its in the Torah…"
I could do narcissist prayer but It disgusts me to go any further.
???
25 years ago the Democrats won the election against Bush and then Gore gave up. They personally handed the presidency over to the republicans. Democrats like to lose even when they win. Then 21 years ago the Dems ran on a platform of “we’ll kill Muslims more efficiently than the Republicans.”
Democrats don’t want to win. Their primary purpose is to prevent a left from existing.
Also don’t forget Nancy Pelosi’s statement about the country needing a “strong republican party” last year. These people are ghouls and aren’t to be trusted.
Oh bet they need a strong gop. Of course they do they need thier boogie man. Without the gop guess who’s the most right wing popular party now? Can’t rack in that donation money without them.
The function of a ratchet is to make an object go in one direction more easily. Democrats fulfill a function in propeling the country rightward. This was arguably not true 80 years ago but post-Reagan they are part of a process of rightward movement. Voting for and legitimizing them is moving the country right and making things worse.
I get not voting dem so please vote for a third party. And do not sleep on it.
Just never vote gop.
Im not hoping for dems to change im hoping they stay status quo long enough for gop to die.
Don’t make me tap the sign again
You need to zoom out. Imagine you’re looking back at this moment from 100 years in the future. If people said “the Dems won’t make it better but at least they won’t make it worse” and just kept the system going, do you think it will ever lead to progress? Will the whole system ever improve?
You need to look for a solution outside of that system. Stop looking for lesser evils in the ballot box. First, look to the people immediately around you and try to join local organizations that might be directly working to improve their conditions (soup kitchens, women’s shelters, etc). Then, organize labor: figure out how to join a union, if there isn’t one read the IWW (or any other big union near you) manual on organizing your workplace and find support to start organizing your workplace. Then from there, your objective should be to take the workers’ struggle to the national and international stage. Change doesn’t come from the ballot box, it comes from building alternative power structures ourselves.
I agree with all you said. No it won’t improve just give time for gop to age out. Since they are actively making things worse. Least dems aren’t trying that hard to deport people or remove renewables.
Though I think change could have happened if 20 mil people voted third party or for Harris instead of sleeping in. Seeing Trump lose twice would have been a great catalyst for changing gop.
The problem with having 365 million people or so in a sick society that encouraged and rewards destroying each other is that things get worse automatically.
Dems doing nothing makes things worse. Reps doing nothing makes things worse. Its a prisoners dilemma where the only winning move is to kill the cops and hope for the best.
If al gore won we’d have still invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, it would just be in bush jrs first term in 2004 that we invade Iraq.
You are Probably right though im sure gore would have pushed for renewables. Thats like his whole thing.