But how do Linux users handle the crippling loneliness of their operating system not pestering them with ads on every update? How else can you know if your computer loves you? Where is the warmth of the corporate embrace?
Teams is a giant turd but using it is a reality of working with a lot of companies so it’s nice it’s at least easy to install a slightly more functional version.
Though it doesn’t work fully, and as it works it’s spewing windows on my screen, because so much of the windows ecosystem doesn’t believe in headless operation.
It’s not a big deal via terminal but for me and probably the average user, a decent update UI is superior. I want my computer to remind me like once a week and then update with one or two clicks. Updating via terminal does not appeal to me.
And this happens too. I get a little tray icon saying ‘do updates’ and I tap that and all my applications whether fwupd (firmware), flatpak or rpm updates are there and I click ‘go’, including the most recent nvidia drivers. In my case, KDE ‘discover’ does this for me. I’m so lazy as to not want to bother running the three terminal commands (dnf, fwupdmgr, and flatpak).
Meanwhile, under windows, I do that, but then it doesn’t do my firmware, so my hardware vendor has their own updater (which also suggests driver updates that Microsoft does not suggest), but if I use those then I still miss out on decent nvidia drivers, I need to go to nvidia to get those updates. And pretty much every application is then independently telling me time to update something or another in a never ending parade of ‘update me now’ icons in the tray.
Meanwhile it can be greatly mitigated in Windows by opening up a terminal and doing a winget update. Except it keeps offering up this one Office update that hangs with a blank terminal in my screen, and it still misses half the stuff…
Guess what I did last night? I spent 4 hours working on getting PSD, XCF and KRA thumbnailers working in Mint. It took custom scripts to be written and each one required different commands because KRA files are just a zip file so you have to extract that and grab one of 3 possible preview files that might exist inside that zip and make that the thumbnail, while in gimp files you cant just use convert command, even convert[0] will only turn the first layer into a thumbnail and thats completely useless. And to top off all that, I finally got thumbnails working in gnome/nautilus but Only the XCF thumbs will generate in cinnamon/nemo (I still have no clue why that is) but I cannot just switch to gnome because there is technically no gnome variant of Mint so gnome doesnt work 100%… etc etc etc
Linux is still not there, this stuff should be simple and automatic. If a 20 year professional took 4 hours to get this far, the average user will give up immediately. Yes Mint is still my daily driver, but seriously thumbnails should not be this much work.
Also, updates.
“hey computer! Update!”
“Sure thing, here is a list of 57 packages I will update, y/n?”
“y”
“ok… done!”
👌
But how do Linux users handle the crippling loneliness of their operating system not pestering them with ads on every update? How else can you know if your computer loves you? Where is the warmth of the corporate embrace?
We shitpost on Lemmy and start flame wars about vi vs. emacs, X11 vs Wayland, sysvinit vs systemd, snaps vs flatpak, etc.
All of those wars have long since ended.
Neovim, Wayland, Systemd and Flatpak have won.
In Emacs I can annotate pdfs.
who the fuck does that in a text editor??
Emacs has a text editor???
Tap for spoiler
Despite my joke, I’m on the Emacs side of this war.
/me eating popcorn as a nano user
There’s an app for that!
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/microsoftteamsblog/microsoft-teams-is-now-available-on-linux/1056267
They discontinued that native app and have a kinda broken pwa. But open-source community delivers.
https://github.com/IsmaelMartinez/teams-for-linux
They’d be better off delivering a warm turd through your open window.
Teams is a giant turd but using it is a reality of working with a lot of companies so it’s nice it’s at least easy to install a slightly more functional version.
I couldn’t imagine taking on the task of repackaging the Teams web client and signing up to fight Microsoft’s continual futzing around with things…
I have been harmed by this web page in a way that is too sacred to recover from. Dying now.
I really wanted mr. Satya to watch my screen with Recall 😥
“Welcome to Costco. I love you.”
Getting me silenced by the mob of mods is just what a dirty Linux user would do.
Removed Comment: Windows has
winget upgrade --all. Fucking cultists.Though it doesn’t work fully, and as it works it’s spewing windows on my screen, because so much of the windows ecosystem doesn’t believe in headless operation.
Literally just make the updates silent.
https://www.edtechirl.com/p/set-it-and-forget-it-daily-silent
New copypasta of 2025:
I use Arch btwI use Mint btwIt’s not a big deal via terminal but for me and probably the average user, a decent update UI is superior. I want my computer to remind me like once a week and then update with one or two clicks. Updating via terminal does not appeal to me.
Sure, it’s a matter taste and I too like a good UI.
Both can exist, that’s a another beauty of linux.
Linux Mint has a good update GUI that can be accessed via a system tray icon in the taskbar.
And this happens too. I get a little tray icon saying ‘do updates’ and I tap that and all my applications whether fwupd (firmware), flatpak or rpm updates are there and I click ‘go’, including the most recent nvidia drivers. In my case, KDE ‘discover’ does this for me. I’m so lazy as to not want to bother running the three terminal commands (dnf, fwupdmgr, and flatpak).
Meanwhile, under windows, I do that, but then it doesn’t do my firmware, so my hardware vendor has their own updater (which also suggests driver updates that Microsoft does not suggest), but if I use those then I still miss out on decent nvidia drivers, I need to go to nvidia to get those updates. And pretty much every application is then independently telling me time to update something or another in a never ending parade of ‘update me now’ icons in the tray.
Meanwhile it can be greatly mitigated in Windows by opening up a terminal and doing a winget update. Except it keeps offering up this one Office update that hangs with a blank terminal in my screen, and it still misses half the stuff…
plus it makes you feel like a hacker for a few seconds
Guess what I did last night? I spent 4 hours working on getting PSD, XCF and KRA thumbnailers working in Mint. It took custom scripts to be written and each one required different commands because KRA files are just a zip file so you have to extract that and grab one of 3 possible preview files that might exist inside that zip and make that the thumbnail, while in gimp files you cant just use convert command, even convert[0] will only turn the first layer into a thumbnail and thats completely useless. And to top off all that, I finally got thumbnails working in gnome/nautilus but Only the XCF thumbs will generate in cinnamon/nemo (I still have no clue why that is) but I cannot just switch to gnome because there is technically no gnome variant of Mint so gnome doesnt work 100%… etc etc etc
Linux is still not there, this stuff should be simple and automatic. If a 20 year professional took 4 hours to get this far, the average user will give up immediately. Yes Mint is still my daily driver, but seriously thumbnails should not be this much work.
publish your scripts and you might save the next guy some hours 🙂