And yet the Amish are healthier than just about anyone. I’ve had the pleasure of having raw milk upon staying overnight with a friend who owned a cow, and it’s vastly different than the chalk died piss water they sell in the grocery store. And I survived!
One, Direct from cow raw milk has way less chances of contamination then mass produced raw milk.
Two, the Amish aren’t going to do into detail about their health issues with someone who’s only spending the night. It’s their normal and what god wants, so why would they?
@Duamerthrax
Amish people have lower rates of some health conditions than the general population, but they also have some higher rates of others:
Cancer
Amish have lower cancer rates than the general population, including lower rates of skin cancer. This may be due to their lifestyle, which includes limited tobacco and alcohol use, and genes that may reduce their susceptibility to cancer. However, Amish adults have lower rates of prostate and colorectal cancer screening than non-Amish adults.
Diabetes, hypertension, and hypercholesterolemia
Amish have lower rates of these conditions than non-Amish Caucasians. This may be due to their higher physical activity levels.
Obesity
Amish have lower rates of obesity than the general population, with Amish children being about one-third as likely to be obese as non-Amish children.
COVID-19 vaccination
Amish are under-vaccinated for COVID-19 compared to the general population.
Cardiovascular disease
Amish have slightly higher rates of blood pressure and heart disease than other populations. This may be due to their diet, which is heavy on pancakes, eggs, sausage, meat, potatoes, gravy, and bread.
Injury
The top three mechanisms of injury leading to mortality in the Amish are falls, pedestrian struck, and farming accidents.
Amish people also tend to use complementary and alternative medicine (CAM), such as folk medicine, spiritual practice, and alternative health practitioners.
Unpasteurized milk itself isn’t the problem. It’s the consequences of trying to milk cows at an industrial scale that are. You simply can’t keep it free from contamination the entire time from the cow to the grocery store shelf.
Without pasteurization, the pathogens that make their way into the milk are going to fester. Fresh milk from a cow isn’t going to kill you, but drinking that just might.
@TheRealKuni While I value studies, when they conflict with personal experience I’ll go with the latter. If you can’t trust your own senses then not much chance at navigating reality. I don’t have any stock in big pharma nor am I a fan of the deep state, apparently a lot of people here are.
@TachyonTele So far I have, and avoided the vax, I’ve had Covid twice, both times a moderate head cold, my son got one vax, one booster, covid three times, once with a 103 fever, heart damage. So yea I think RFK is right, also giving infants 70 shots is insane. Only thing this is benefiting is big pharma, they don’t make money off of healthy people.
@TachyonTele Look at excess deaths that started right when the vax came out. Put it together or be stupid and die. I don’t care, just don’t want you getting others killed.
Yoi’re right, letting them get infected with life-threatening diseases with as little protection as possible is much more responsible.
Only thing this is benefiting is big pharma, they don’t make money off of healthy people.
This has always been a stupid argument. Imagine two pharmaceutical companies, A and B. A develops a treatment that treats but doesn’t cure a patient. B develops a more expensive treatment, but it completely cures a patient.
Which company would you want to be a customer of? Obviously B, they can cure you. Pharmaceutical companies are financially incentivised to cure rather than treat.
Now imagine A also tries to develop a cure. The only was they can compete is by making the cure cheaper, safer or more effective.
Being the only one with a cure means you can also ask higher prices, as you’ve essentially monopolised a disease.
This is also self-evident from all the diseases that we’ve found cures for in the last few decades. Even cancer is becoming less and less of a death sentence.
And yet the Amish are healthier than just about anyone. I’ve had the pleasure of having raw milk upon staying overnight with a friend who owned a cow, and it’s vastly different than the chalk died piss water they sell in the grocery store. And I survived!
You should be a scientist!
@eran_morad I at least no how to find and read studies on nih.gov and research gate which I suspect is more than most here.
Source: your ass?
@ Google it, don’t be so fucking lazy.
It’s no one’s job to prove you aren’t lying but your own.
Make the claim, provide the source. As you said, don’t be lazy
@Ioughttamow @lemmee_in Dispute claim, provide a source, or shut the fuck up.
Source: Medical Science.
That isn’t how it works.
@SaltySalamander @lemmee_in @Ioughttamow It is here.
Perfect solution. Everyone who wants milk just needs to have their own cow.
@NABDad I don’t think we’re allowed to have cows where I live at all, and horses are only permitted if you have five acres or more.
One, Direct from cow raw milk has way less chances of contamination then mass produced raw milk.
Two, the Amish aren’t going to do into detail about their health issues with someone who’s only spending the night. It’s their normal and what god wants, so why would they?
@Duamerthrax
Amish people have lower rates of some health conditions than the general population, but they also have some higher rates of others:
Cancer
Amish have lower cancer rates than the general population, including lower rates of skin cancer. This may be due to their lifestyle, which includes limited tobacco and alcohol use, and genes that may reduce their susceptibility to cancer. However, Amish adults have lower rates of prostate and colorectal cancer screening than non-Amish adults.
Diabetes, hypertension, and hypercholesterolemia
Amish have lower rates of these conditions than non-Amish Caucasians. This may be due to their higher physical activity levels.
Obesity
Amish have lower rates of obesity than the general population, with Amish children being about one-third as likely to be obese as non-Amish children.
COVID-19 vaccination
Amish are under-vaccinated for COVID-19 compared to the general population.
Cardiovascular disease
Amish have slightly higher rates of blood pressure and heart disease than other populations. This may be due to their diet, which is heavy on pancakes, eggs, sausage, meat, potatoes, gravy, and bread.
Injury
The top three mechanisms of injury leading to mortality in the Amish are falls, pedestrian struck, and farming accidents.
Amish people also tend to use complementary and alternative medicine (CAM), such as folk medicine, spiritual practice, and alternative health practitioners.
Cool chat gpt readout. Any sources or info actually worth reading though?
There’s a word for “alternative medicine” that works.
Medicine.
But sure, keep simping for a group that has both horrific child sexual abuse issues and horrific animal abuse issues. They’re just awesome people.
Incidentally, you didn’t bother sourcing your claims. I wonder why that is?
Unpasteurized milk itself isn’t the problem. It’s the consequences of trying to milk cows at an industrial scale that are. You simply can’t keep it free from contamination the entire time from the cow to the grocery store shelf.
Without pasteurization, the pathogens that make their way into the milk are going to fester. Fresh milk from a cow isn’t going to kill you, but drinking that just might.
When people carried the milk home, they used it the same day.
Sometimes a change in weather could spoil it on the way home.
@pivot_root Actually it is a problem, 1) it destroys a lot of the nutrient value, and 2) it makes it taste like chalk water instead of milk.
Nope! STUDY AFTER STUDY shows that isn’t true in any meaningful sense.
@TheRealKuni While I value studies, when they conflict with personal experience I’ll go with the latter. If you can’t trust your own senses then not much chance at navigating reality. I don’t have any stock in big pharma nor am I a fan of the deep state, apparently a lot of people here are.
Next you’re gonna tell us that the earth is flat because you’ve never experienced curvature. 🙄
Well then, you go right ahead and take RFK Jrs health advice.
Good luck.
@TachyonTele So far I have, and avoided the vax, I’ve had Covid twice, both times a moderate head cold, my son got one vax, one booster, covid three times, once with a 103 fever, heart damage. So yea I think RFK is right, also giving infants 70 shots is insane. Only thing this is benefiting is big pharma, they don’t make money off of healthy people.
Your son got heart damage and you think RFK Jr is right? You’re a horrible parent.
@TachyonTele Look at excess deaths that started right when the vax came out. Put it together or be stupid and die. I don’t care, just don’t want you getting others killed.
Yoi’re right, letting them get infected with life-threatening diseases with as little protection as possible is much more responsible.
This has always been a stupid argument. Imagine two pharmaceutical companies, A and B. A develops a treatment that treats but doesn’t cure a patient. B develops a more expensive treatment, but it completely cures a patient.
Which company would you want to be a customer of? Obviously B, they can cure you. Pharmaceutical companies are financially incentivised to cure rather than treat.
Now imagine A also tries to develop a cure. The only was they can compete is by making the cure cheaper, safer or more effective.
Being the only one with a cure means you can also ask higher prices, as you’ve essentially monopolised a disease.
This is also self-evident from all the diseases that we’ve found cures for in the last few decades. Even cancer is becoming less and less of a death sentence.
He’s wrong.
Spoken like a true friend to polio
I’m thinking what we need to finally wake people up is a major polio outbreak.
And a terrible parent.
Also, they think RFK is right about being antivax despite getting heart damage from COVID?
Survivor bias in action. It might be delicious, Andee you can choose to take the risk, but the science is undeniable.