I wanna say yay Darwin will save the day but I’m too afraid of intentional sabotage on pasteurized milk.
I think everyone is making way too much out of this. What could possibly go wr-
Oh.
I’m fairly certain, they just all got together to make a list of all the stupid things they could do to own the libs.
The neat thing about this one, is that It only hurts the people that are going to follow him. The people who didn’t vote for that side know better.
You would hope so, but there’s just as many ‘crunchy’ people on the left as there are in the right.
Get ready, there’s going to be a whole lot of peeling off the warning labels.
I wonder, well they outright outlaw vaccines, or they just be privatized only…
Today’s Republican Party didn’t get into their position of awesome power by listening to experts…
“I think, the people of this country have had of experts” - Michael Gove, (during UK brexit campaign)
Alex Jones will now be replaced by this idiot fuckwad. Buckle up for the crazy!
Alex Jones could only dream of having this kind of power.
Apart from the bird flu being really fucking dangerous raw milk is just a matter of being used to it. If you drink it your whole life it is really not a problem to drink it, as long as a proper hygiene is applied. However, aomeone who isn’t used to it might get sick from drinking it.
If raw milk is as dangerous as some of the keyboard experts on here think then Louis Pasteur would never have been born - humans would’ve died out in Northern Europe long before.
Also true. As I said. You can get sick from it if you aren’t used to it.
Raw milk can contain dangerous bacteria like salmonella, E. coli, Listeria, Campylobacter, and others.
Sounds yummy
And that’s why I said as long as proper hygiene is being practised. This also includes separating the milk from sick cows.
Also, to kind of prove my point: Every single farmer I know, that has cows, drinks the raw milk. Did they die or get sick? No. Does this mean that nobody will get sick? Also no.
What’s the name of the cow you get your raw milk from?
Do you get a veterinary report about her with every bottle of milk?
I can name you at least 30 of them. How do I know? Because I live on their farm.
Username checks out.
Sadly the ‘factory farm’ dairy industry probably won’t follow the proper hygiene you’re referring to, and I’d imagine that the current administration would be more interested in reducing the regulations that would force proper hygiene than increase them.
I know a guy who got tuberculosis from raw milk.
And yet the Amish are healthier than just about anyone. I’ve had the pleasure of having raw milk upon staying overnight with a friend who owned a cow, and it’s vastly different than the chalk died piss water they sell in the grocery store. And I survived!
You should be a scientist!
@eran_morad I at least no how to find and read studies on nih.gov and research gate which I suspect is more than most here.
And yet the Amish are healthier than just about anyone
Source: your ass?
@ Google it, don’t be so fucking lazy.
It’s no one’s job to prove you aren’t lying but your own.
Make the claim, provide the source. As you said, don’t be lazy
@Ioughttamow @lemmee_in Dispute claim, provide a source, or shut the fuck up.
Source: Medical Science.
That isn’t how it works.
@SaltySalamander @lemmee_in @Ioughttamow It is here.
Perfect solution. Everyone who wants milk just needs to have their own cow.
@NABDad I don’t think we’re allowed to have cows where I live at all, and horses are only permitted if you have five acres or more.
One, Direct from cow raw milk has way less chances of contamination then mass produced raw milk.
Two, the Amish aren’t going to do into detail about their health issues with someone who’s only spending the night. It’s their normal and what god wants, so why would they?
@Duamerthrax
Amish people have lower rates of some health conditions than the general population, but they also have some higher rates of others:Cancer
Amish have lower cancer rates than the general population, including lower rates of skin cancer. This may be due to their lifestyle, which includes limited tobacco and alcohol use, and genes that may reduce their susceptibility to cancer. However, Amish adults have lower rates of prostate and colorectal cancer screening than non-Amish adults.Diabetes, hypertension, and hypercholesterolemia
Amish have lower rates of these conditions than non-Amish Caucasians. This may be due to their higher physical activity levels.Obesity
Amish have lower rates of obesity than the general population, with Amish children being about one-third as likely to be obese as non-Amish children.COVID-19 vaccination
Amish are under-vaccinated for COVID-19 compared to the general population.Cardiovascular disease
Amish have slightly higher rates of blood pressure and heart disease than other populations. This may be due to their diet, which is heavy on pancakes, eggs, sausage, meat, potatoes, gravy, and bread.Injury
The top three mechanisms of injury leading to mortality in the Amish are falls, pedestrian struck, and farming accidents.Amish people also tend to use complementary and alternative medicine (CAM), such as folk medicine, spiritual practice, and alternative health practitioners.
Cool chat gpt readout. Any sources or info actually worth reading though?
There’s a word for “alternative medicine” that works.
Medicine.
But sure, keep simping for a group that has both horrific child sexual abuse issues and horrific animal abuse issues. They’re just awesome people.
Incidentally, you didn’t bother sourcing your claims. I wonder why that is?
Unpasteurized milk itself isn’t the problem. It’s the consequences of trying to milk cows at an industrial scale that are. You simply can’t keep it free from contamination the entire time from the cow to the grocery store shelf.
Without pasteurization, the pathogens that make their way into the milk are going to fester. Fresh milk from a cow isn’t going to kill you, but drinking that just might.
When people carried the milk home, they used it the same day.
Sometimes a change in weather could spoil it on the way home.
@pivot_root Actually it is a problem, 1) it destroys a lot of the nutrient value, and 2) it makes it taste like chalk water instead of milk.
- it destroys a lot of the nutrient value
Nope! STUDY AFTER STUDY shows that isn’t true in any meaningful sense.
@TheRealKuni While I value studies, when they conflict with personal experience I’ll go with the latter. If you can’t trust your own senses then not much chance at navigating reality. I don’t have any stock in big pharma nor am I a fan of the deep state, apparently a lot of people here are.
Next you’re gonna tell us that the earth is flat because you’ve never experienced curvature. 🙄
Well then, you go right ahead and take RFK Jrs health advice.
Good luck.
@TachyonTele So far I have, and avoided the vax, I’ve had Covid twice, both times a moderate head cold, my son got one vax, one booster, covid three times, once with a 103 fever, heart damage. So yea I think RFK is right, also giving infants 70 shots is insane. Only thing this is benefiting is big pharma, they don’t make money off of healthy people.
Your son got heart damage and you think RFK Jr is right? You’re a horrible parent.
@TachyonTele Look at excess deaths that started right when the vax came out. Put it together or be stupid and die. I don’t care, just don’t want you getting others killed.
also giving infants 70 shots is insane
Yoi’re right, letting them get infected with life-threatening diseases with as little protection as possible is much more responsible.
Only thing this is benefiting is big pharma, they don’t make money off of healthy people.
This has always been a stupid argument. Imagine two pharmaceutical companies, A and B. A develops a treatment that treats but doesn’t cure a patient. B develops a more expensive treatment, but it completely cures a patient.
Which company would you want to be a customer of? Obviously B, they can cure you. Pharmaceutical companies are financially incentivised to cure rather than treat.
Now imagine A also tries to develop a cure. The only was they can compete is by making the cure cheaper, safer or more effective.
Being the only one with a cure means you can also ask higher prices, as you’ve essentially monopolised a disease.
This is also self-evident from all the diseases that we’ve found cures for in the last few decades. Even cancer is becoming less and less of a death sentence.
RFK is right
He’s wrong.
Spoken like a true friend to polio
I’m thinking what we need to finally wake people up is a major polio outbreak.
And a terrible parent.
Also, they think RFK is right about being antivax despite getting heart damage from COVID?
Survivor bias in action. It might be delicious, Andee you can choose to take the risk, but the science is undeniable.
I say let him do it. Let him fuck around for a month.
Or we could not have a massive salmonella epidemic in the U.S.
It seems like your country needs to learn a hard history lesson or two. Give it a try.
It seems like hoping for millions of children and infants to die is a really ghoulish thing to do. You apparently already gave it a try.
Yes, a month will kill MILLIONS and MILLIONS of children. And I gave it a try in my backyard, yes. You’re clearly on top of things.
Maybe I’m remembering wrong, but wasn’t there a Portlandia sketch about why raw milk is bad?
Raw milk and raw dogging porn stars
Politician life
If it didn’t risk spreading disease to everyone else, I would totally be on board with letting science deniers drink more raw milk
Raw milk is dangerous. When I was growing up people would get sick all the time from raw milk it gets contaminated all the time.
We can’t even manage to keep listeria out of our waffles and deli meats snd have e coli onions but sure, raw milk will be no problem.
trump’s appointments are in the style “Who is the worst person i know for the job that lives inside my colon?”
if Pablo Escobar was still alive, he’d probably have been appointed head of the DEA
Junior’s gonna get that job.
Dumb af is what it is.
Let’s see here, RFK wants to ban vaccines and promote raw milk.
There is currently a bird flu epidemic in dairy cattle from bird droppings getting into the feed.
Consuming raw milk is one of the few ways humans can become infected with bird flu.
I’m sure this will be fine and the virus won’t mutate to allow for human to human transfer, it if it does luckily it only has a 56% mortality rate compared to the Covid morality rate of ~4% during its peak.In the US, right now, the dairy farms where they let the cats drink raw milk saw half their cats die.
This is an actual thing.
You’re sort of right ( based on the article I think you read about) The cats drank bird flu contaminated raw milk which led to them dying. that being said, for that reason, raw milk is very dangerous to humans because pasteurized milk wouldn’t be as dangerous. https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/04/concerning-spread-of-bird-flu-from-cows-to-cats-suspected-in-texas/
RFK is secretly a flu virus wearing a human suit.
On the plus side the high mortality rate should lower the spread.
True, but on the minus side, dumb people actively seeking out the infected milk would artificially increase the instances and thus the spread.
But on the plus side, dumb people actively infect themselves and get removed from the gene pool.
But on the minus side, other people don’t have the choice to completely avoid those dumb people and thus minimize their risk of infection.
If they did, covid wouldn’t have been a tenth as bad as it was.
I don’t care. Do you?
They voted for this, they can deal with the consequences.
