More than “mildly infuriating”, this is deeply depressing.
(And seeing TikTok two times there don’t make things better…)
Well, at least the No. 1 spot is a trustworthy VPN.
Yeah, but the other two… (And fucking TikTok there twice! TWICE!)
None of those apps are the official Ticktok app.
Honestly I would try to get most of your apps from F-droid. F-droid only has free and open source software which means it is typically much less sketchy.
- Yes, they are official TikToks apps
- I quit using Playstore apps a long time ago, F-Droid is my main source of apps. I just went to the list of successes of the Playstore to see if loops, the Fediverse TikTok alternative that just dropped, was on the list.
wait, did the loops app get on the play store? Pixelfed was added, and is the most popular new social app rn.
Oh yeah, I kinda messed up the two. I was referring to Pixelfed, not loops, but I am too lazy to edit the comment.
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That only increased proton’s load and now it would be worse for other free users
Maybe pay for the service?
I don’t think people who watch tiktok videos which are heavier traffic would pay for it. And me, as a free user who only uses it casually once in a while, i don’t think i am needing it enough to pay for it.
I wonder if people know why they are downloading and using a VPN. Especially when you’re talking about the more sketchy ones.
To avoid region locking. Anything else regarding security is just bogus talk they trying sell you.
Security as in cybersecurity, yes. Security as in not getting caught violating government bans, not so much - if you’re in a country where getting repressed by your government is a real possibility, it helps a lot for it to not be possible to see exactly what sites you visit. Reminder: even over HTTPS, the domain name (like
lemmy.world
) is normally not encrypted. Encrypted Client Hello can solve this, but it has only started being commonly used a year ago or so, and more importantly requires the host to support it.Well, I agree, but that’s now how they are advertised, sadly.
Superficially, maybe. But not in depth, like knowing what a VPN actually does and such.
I wonder how much of that ‘education’ is from ads and influencers constantly pushing VPNs. LOL
Well, you know, no one hears about VPNs in school, so…
Considering that there is a ton of censorship there I think they definitely know why.
Source?
It’s my understanding the issue isn’t Venezuelan officials censoring, so much as other countries blocking access from Venezuelan users.
It is very likely Venezuela censoring.
What are you basing this assumption on?
Reports on the Venezuela government
Link? Let’s see this state dept propaganda firsthand.
https://freedomhouse.org/explore-the-map?type=fiw&year=2024
I don’t think anyone actually cares about Venezuela all that much. It is such a small country that it probably isn’t even on the radar of the majority of websites.
Ok, tankie. The government is even censoring the Venezuelan Mastodon instance
at least its proton vpn instead of the scammy ones.
Apparently the CEO of proton is a big trumper now :(
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Yes, I did assume that he’s extremely stupid if he thinks anything good could ever come from Trump. It’s not like he’s some mysterious unknown quantity at this point, we’ve been through this before. Also what happened to italics1?
It was taken.
Also if it is real it’s not that bad to compliment a president on choosing a guy that actually is listening about what you have to say against big tech.
I’m hoping Yen just fucked up and posted without thinking it through, but seriously, I can’t in any way take anyone seriously who says Trump is sticking it to big tech and fighting for the little guy when we literally know the going rate for a big tech bribe to Trump. It’s a million dollars from the CEO personally, donated to the inauguration fund. Zuck, Cook and others have each done it, and gained audiences with Trump.
I am not an American and maybe do not understand how the political system operates. However I did not write that Trump is sticking it to the big guys. You are making something up there. If Trump chose a minister is not the minister responsible for listening to the industry? Yen’s and Proton’s position (taking this from the now removed Mastodon post) was/is that the Democrats chose Kamala instead of Bernie and Kamala’s team did not listen. Trumps apointee did listen. If it were Bernie’s team I am sure Proton would complement Bernie for choosing someone who listens. I just do not think this is a big deal.
That was referring to Yen’s statement actually, not what you said.
Then why did you quote me 😵💫
Your ability to interact with people on a text forum is very questionable.
He quoted you to disagree with you on your overall point, then went to specifics.
Idk, seems pretty bad to me: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/12426522
Yeah, I’m not a “Trumper,” but the amount of preemptive conclusions and quick judgments people make, especially those who claim to be tolerant and empathetic, is quite hypocritical.
I don’t deny that I sometimes jump to conclusions too, but I’m amazed at how people don’t even bother to research for even a few seconds! They see a picture, realize it’s not a person destroying something Trump tweeted, notice other comments that jump to conclusions, and that’s all it takes for them to make their own conclusions.
If those in charge’s goal is to divide us and stifle critical thinking, they’ve been remarkably successful. It’s a shame because humans could achieve so many incredible things if we weren’t constantly divided and consumed by hatred.
The tweet said “this guy who is fucking Elon musk for money now is the only one supporting the little guys”. It doesn’t take a lot to think through this, it doesn’t take empathy. We are fighting an irrational cult of personality bent on destroying the united States as we know it, and for the worse. Supporting Trump at all is not an option.
And?
Trusting shady people with your internet traffic and email is generally a bad idea.
They are not “shady” as a company and you know that, you are just doing a political protest
Nothing wrong with that
Should I still be using Surfshark? I only use it because it’s fast.
Careful who you trust, proton is trump scum
Just found out today. this is why we cant have nice things.
What did they do?
You fell for a sensationalising post.
Is it wrong?
If you mean that Proton is a scum you are writing something that is false. Proton is doing many things that are usefull and right. Should I elaborate?
I didn’t write anything, I just asked if the message about proton’s head supporting Trump was false.
Weird… No response.
I am in a different time zone. It was 3am.
Maybe you should have worded the question like that from the beginning. It is hard to tell what you mean otherwise.
No, you just didnt read. The sequence was
- Someone else says proton is pro trump
- You say they fell for a sensationalizing post
- I asked but is it wrong, though
This isn’t confusing or ambiguous.
Venezuela is one of those countries that just constantly seems to be in a bad state. I can’t imagine living under a government that disrespects its people.
As it turns out unalienable rights are totally alienable
It’s in a bad state now because of the sanctions placed upon it. It was in a bad state before because of capitalist rule.
For a colonial power, Spain was a real douchebag. The effects of that douchebaggery seem to have real staying power.
There are plenty of other former Spanish colonies that are doing much better than Venezuela
But are any doing well?
Uruguay and Chile are kinda okay
Wasn’t Chile in the brink of a civil war recently? I’ve no clue about Uruguay though.
A colonial powers in the Americas were real douchebags. They genocided the natives, then went to another continent to enslave people and bring them over. All this was for sugar and tobacco. Millions of deaths and enslaved so some people in Europe could smoke cigarettes while they have sweets. It couldn’t get much worse than that.
It’s not about the sweets and cigarettes it’s just about the wealth acquisition. Same then as it is now. Companies are still using slave and otherwise coerced labor to extract all kinds of wealth from foreign countries.
If any countries try to take control over their own economy by closing it to Western “investment” they get wrecked by the world bank and invaded or sanctioned by the US and/or its allies.
Global capitalism is neo-colonialism.
And I wonder whose fault it is for turning and keeping it in a state of perpetual decay 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I can’t imagine living under a government that disrespects its people.
lol you in antarctica?
that’s because the us and the cia spent years destabilising it
Self-centered USAmericans thinking Venezuela is the way it is because of them, ha. The USA has just followed in Venezuela’s footsteps, electing a dictator
Same as Florida… but for different reasons.
Oh yeah, I know why lol
Isn’t tiktok free? Why would you need a lite version. Is it for old phones that can’t run much?
Yes, is for old phones and such. A mutual told me the main app is bad optimized, and a lot of smartphone here are very VERY old. Mine have like 5 years or so, I think that’s like 5 decades in more “develop” countries.
Third-world shenanigans, you know.
If it’s anything like Facebook lite, it’s literally a wrapper for the website. Not even a proper app. Usually a worse experience than using a real browser, but the main apps are usually so bad that people with older phones put up with the lite “apps”.
Is that because of the political situation? Like repression, internet censorship… Or an unrelated trend?
Yeah, is political. We can enter twitter (not that I care) and other sites.
Just read the government is currently also on a VPN banning spree. I guess that list is going to change frequently now, if people continue with watching Youtube, Instagram and Twitter.
My top apps are all shopping apps, discount apps, WhatsApp, ChatGPT, TEMU, video streaming and TikTok is there, too. VPN comes further down along with dating apps and then it gets quite random. Guess in Germany our biggest worry is to save some money when grocery shopping…