WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is expected to lift the Biden administration's freeze on the supply of 2,000-pound bombs to Israel in his first days in office, Walla

Summary

Trump plans to lift the Biden administration’s freeze on supplying 2,000-pound bombs to Israel and reverse sanctions against Israeli settlers.

  • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
    3013·
    1 day ago

    Non American here. Both your parties are genocide and apartheid supporters. Simple as that.

    Yea, one of the two is more than the other. But you got to come to terms with the fact that your country’s bipartisan effect in the region is kinda evil.

    Lol, down vote all you like. I’m just telling the truth.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      187·
      23 hours ago

      Everyone here agrees with you, dawg… We just understand our country’s political system enough to know which was the correct choice to mitigate that evil.

      People made the wrong choice.

      • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
        7·
        21 hours ago

        You know how we say that Israel is going to continue with apartheid and colonization even if Netanyahu is voted out? And that focusing too much on Netanyahu is sometimes a red herring because Israeli Apartheid is structural and a long term strategic goal of the Israeli establishment? Like, sure Netanyahu accelerates the process and does it shamelessly and publicly, but it’s not as if the process had not been in full swing by both center-left and center-right governments before him, who massively expanded settlements and entrenched the occupation and settlements.

        Same logic applies for the US support of Israeli Apartheid. Your system moves faster and more overtly when controlled by your fascist Right. But I’m not going to pretend that your non-fascist Center is not basically moving in the same direction.

        Just because your political system puts a gun to your heads every four years, doesn’t mean the rest of us have to buy into the same blackmail. (EDIT: we have other blackmails foisted on us by our own assholes thank you very much.)

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          53·
          20 hours ago

          Just because your political system puts a gun to your heads every four years, doesn’t mean the rest of us have to buy into the same blackmail.

          Yeah but unfortunately for you, you do. Or even worse, you have no say whatsoever.

      • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
        9·
        20 hours ago

        Disprove me. Point me official policies enacted by one of the two US parties that materially opposed Israeli Apartheid and the genocide of Palestinians since Oslo. To make sure I don’t move the goalposts by claiming you cherry pick occasional bleeps, make a strong argument by showing me a consistent trend.

        EDIT: added “since Oslo” because we need some start time.

        EDIT2: Here’s what ChatGPT has to say about this. It is obviously not the arbiter of truth, but I guess this is common enough knowledge that it has made to the training of LLMs. Not a proof, but a baseline to beat:

        Since the Oslo Accords in 1993, both major U.S. political parties—the Democrats and the Republicans—have predominantly supported Israel, often refraining from officially opposing its policies toward Palestinians. While individual politicians within these parties have occasionally criticized Israeli actions, a consistent, party-wide trend of enacting official policies that materially oppose what some describe as Israeli apartheid or the genocide of Palestinians is not evident.

        Democratic Party:

        Historically, the Democratic Party has maintained strong support for Israel. However, in recent years, a progressive faction within the party has voiced concerns over Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. Notably, members of “The Squad,” including Representatives Rashida Tlaib and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, have condemned Israeli policies. For instance, in October 2023, Tlaib accused Israel of committing genocide, stating, “President Biden, not all America is with you on this one, and you need to wake up and understand. We are literally watching people commit genocide.”

        Despite these individual statements, the broader Democratic Party has not adopted official policies that consistently oppose Israeli actions. The party’s platform continues to support a two-state solution without explicitly condemning Israel’s practices. While some Democrats have urged the administration to take a firmer stance, such as the January 2024 letter from 60 Democratic Congressmembers urging Secretary of State Antony Blinken to condemn the forced displacement of Palestinians, these actions represent internal party debates rather than an official, unified policy shift.

        Republican Party:

        The Republican Party has traditionally exhibited unwavering support for Israel. Under President Donald Trump’s administration, this support intensified, with actions such as recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and moving the U.S. embassy there. The 2024 Republican Party platform reaffirmed the party’s stance to “stand with Israel” and called for the deportation of “pro-Hamas radicals,” indicating a continued strong alliance. WIKIPEDIA

        While there have been isolated critiques—such as Trump’s personal criticisms of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu—these do not reflect a broader party policy opposing Israeli actions toward Palestinians. Overall, the Republican Party has not enacted official policies that materially oppose Israel’s treatment of Palestinians.

        Conclusion:

        In summary, neither the Democratic nor the Republican Party has demonstrated a consistent trend of enacting official policies that materially oppose Israel’s actions toward Palestinians since the Oslo Accords. While individual members within these parties have expressed dissenting views, these have not translated into official party-wide policies or actions.

        • inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          12·
          8 hours ago

          Ugh. Fuck chat gpt. It’s hallucinating and not a legitimate source.

          That being said the uniparty supports capitalism, imperialism, and the unsinkable aircraft carrier known as Israel.

    • Fizz@lemmy.nzEnglish
      49·
      22 hours ago

      You do realize the United States didn’t start that war. They’ve done a lot to stabilize the region and they have tried to solve the issue both before and after the war.

      You try and negotiate a deal between Israel and Palestine it’s not an easy task.

        • Fizz@lemmy.nzEnglish
          1·
          6 minutes ago

          I do not think blame for the wars sits with the person who sold the weapons. There are plenty of people selling bombs. Sell Israel no bombs and they go somewhere else, restrict weapons sales and you keep them as an ally but limit their capability.

      • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
        8·
        22 hours ago

        I never said they started the war. I said they support genocide and apartheid (and I should have added occupation). Which they do. You can argue all you like whether their reasons for doing it are good or bad, but the simple fact of the matter is that in a bipartisan way they support Apartheid Israel and its policies for genocide and occupation. That’s just factual.

        • Fizz@lemmy.nzEnglish
          1·
          11 hours ago

          I was taking aim at the evil influence to the region. The Americans and Israeli didn’t start the war. They have been working to build ties and alliances to promote regional stability. There are Iranian proxy groups that are destabilizing the region, these people are to blame for the war and destabilizing the region. You cannot support these groups.

          I understand people get hurt in war but negotiations with these groups is going terribly. They have insane demands and are completely delusional. You would never accept a terrorist group doing an attack on your country without repercussions.

          • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
            1·
            10 hours ago

            Malaka, I’m Greek. Better ask what I’d do if my country was occupied, like the Israelis occupy Palestine. My ancestors did worse to the Ottomans after 400 years of occupation and subjugation than what Hamas did to the Israelis after 80.

            We understand what occupation means and what it does to a people. Same reason why the Irish support the Palestinians. And we understand that the “stability” you talk of reeks of Nakba, Apartheid, Occupation and Genocide.

            Edit: toned down the chest thumping

            • Fizz@lemmy.nzEnglish
              1·
              9 minutes ago

              Ok what would you do if your country was occupied like Palestine? Would you continue to fight Isreal and risk starting another war knowing full well every single war has been lost catastrophically?

            • LengAwaits@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              9 hours ago

              I’m curious what you suggest the US should do to rectify your criticisms? Do you advocate for the US to take a completely hands-off approach, withdrawing all presence and funding in the area?

              • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
                1·
                2 hours ago

                The US should listen to Daniel Levy, former negotiator for Israel under Ehud Barak. Look for good interviews and talks online.

                • LengAwaits@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  50 minutes ago

                  That’s, not really what I asked. You have an opportunity here to argue publicly for a position you believe in passionately, and are criticizing others for not holding… and you pass it off to me?

                  Why bother to preach if you’re not willing to teach? Or at least provide a link or two.

                  • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
                    1·
                    12 minutes ago

                    Good point.

                    Here is who Daniel Levy is:

                    He was formerly an Israeli negotiator as part of the Taba summit and Oslo 2 peace process. He is current president of the U.S./Middle East Project (USMEP) and was among the founders of the organization J Street. So, you know, not some random guy.

                    Here are some links:

                    My rationale for focusing on Levy is that this is a person who has first-hand experience with Israeli politics, with the Oslo process, engages with the anti-apartheid Palestinian, Israeli and Western left, and is knowledgeable of US, British and Jewish diaspora politics. His vision for resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is focused in a dignified, equitable peace through a two-state solution, grounded in international law and mutual respect for the rights of all individuals involved.

                    In a world where reason, compassion and universal human rights were the rule, Daniel’s approach would be the absolute minimum baseline for any discussion about a resolution. There is objectively nothing unreasonable or radical in his vision. But in this timeline? He’s labelled an unreasonable far-left extremist, and only consistently platformed by the likes of DemocracyNow and Novara.

                    So, there. He also happens to have a velvety radio voice, so, enjoy :)