Didn’t the guy host the incoming president of usa and his allies? Looks indeed like a propaganda asset to me but not russia propaganda.
I have you tagged as “Russian troll” and every comment I see if yours supports the Russian narrative or undermine the Russian interference narrative.
Or maybe you’re not a propaganda asset, just actually this stupid!
How i’m stupid? If you handpick USA politicians and people with ties to the USA government for your program interviews you sound like an USA propaganda asset to me.
How pointing this out label me as a russian troll? You honestly sound a much bigger bad actor for labeling as troll people pointing out the obvious.
I’ve never followed Joe Rogan, so I’m a bit ignorant here. Didn’t he used to be really popular? What changed, did he become right wing or get really into conspiracies or something?
He has in the past had some good conversations with interesting individuals, but he is probably the most credulous person on the face of the earth since Joseph bought the line about the virgin birth.
He doesn’t just give no pushback, he believes whatever he is told as received wisdom. He’s the kind of guy that Ancient Aliens was targeted at. Unfortunately that has got him into the secret truths/fascist death spiral.
Conversation implies two people participating equally, I don’t think he ever had good conversations. He had some interesting guests on, but he was in no way an equal or even significant contributor to said appearances.
Also I questioned the believe everything he’s told thing. I’ve seen clips of people explaining why he’s wrong on things and his Meathead not been able to grasp it and sticking with it. Even clips of his producer explaining why one of the things he says is completely wrong and made up, and he still believes it. My favorite Club of him is him screaming at a scientist who spinner entire career studying chimpanzees I think it was. He didn’t believe what she said. So I’m not so sure about the believes whatever he is told thing.
He’s always been popular, his show is the biggest around. But he’s a dumbass who routinely platforms assholes like Jordan Peterson and does zero due diligence.
At around the beginning of the pandemic he started to switch. At the start of the pandemic - March 2020, he had a virologist on that convinced me covid-19 wasn’t just another SARS or MERS that was going to fall flat.
Rogan began his spiral into deplorability after that. Inconvenience outweighed reality for him.
Prior to then, I’d say he had a great mix of all guests from politics to science, hunting and fighting, comedy and entertainment… He was a good interviewer then because he’d ask good questions, shut up, and let them talk. Moreover, he’d ask questions common people might ask a preeminent physicist or politician, getting from them answers accessible to most people.
I stopped listening to his shit back then. Now, he’s a big toe. He has a self serving agenda. He’s a MAGA Republican asset, which makes him a Russian one by proxy if not directly.
He was a good interviewer then because he’d ask good questions, shut up, and let them talk.
And there was no time pressure on his podcast. The episodes took as long as they took, so no need for people who aren’t good at sound bites to figure out how to explain something complicated in a fast and simple way.
But, even back pre-COVID, pre-Spotify, he was a dangerous idiot. Like, he’d have Alex Jones on, and the guy would spew vast quantities of dangerous misinformation, and Rogan would fact check him on one little thing and that moment would go viral. Meanwhile, Alex Jones gets platformed and most of his BS goes unchallenged.
He had maybe 3-4 good years when his podcast changed from having the same MMA fighters / comedians on again and again every year, to having new people every week, to when it went full-on right wing. In 2012/13 it was still an MMA / comedy podcast featuring mostly the same people every week. Then he had Neil Degrasse Tyson, Dana White, Dan Carlin, David Lee Roth, Douglas Rushkoff. In 2017 he had Alex Jones for the first time. But, by then he was already platforming woowoo people pushing “supplements”, and right-wing assholes like Stephen Crowder and Gavin McInnes.
You nailed it.
He promoted voting for trump, he’s an actual right winger.
Rogan declared his support for Trump in the 2024 presidential election against Vice President Kamala Harris the night before polls opened. He credited Tesla CEO Elon Musk with his decision to endorse Trump.
Good christ. Do you have any reading comprehension at all? I wasn’t talking about now. I was talking about the old days. If you had payed attention to the words I wrote, you would have seen that.
I was adding on to what you were saying. Try and have a good Thanksgiving.
Apologies. I’ve edited my comment.
No worries, we all have a little PTSD going on from the trolling. Happens to me sometimes too.
No integrity.
Let any nut job on his show spew their easily falsifiable claims/conspiracies and then gave those nut jobs legitimacy by just sitting there and nodding at them as if agreeing with them.
He sold out for money/views. Simple as that.
He’s not very intelligent overall and he doesn’t care who his guests are and what harm the words of those guests do.
Rogan allows wrongthink, which is the greatest affront to the liberal mind.
Joe Rogan is what dumb people think smart people sound like.
Nobody thinks Joe Rogan sounds smart. Dumb people just like him because he asks the same dumb questions they’d ask if they could talk to the same celebrities.
Its funny you say that shit about liberals when Rubepublicans are banning books. How’s your reality down there? Is the worldview narrowing?
Being equally closed minded isn’t a great defense.
That might be true if there was an actual unified left in the states. Theres not. So most leftist are unrepresented. You might also have a point if Democrats didn’t actually enact shit that helped the working class and allow you to be who you want, but they do so your point is moot. Theres only one party here who consists of close minded anti-intellectuals and though the dems are annoying with their donors its not them. Have fun with the federally mandated genders come January. Cause nothing says open minded freedom like forcing people to have binary genders.
I think liberals are also attempting to ban books nowadays, so that’s not a great point to raise.
A 2023 analysis by The Washington Post found that a majority of book challenges in over 100 school districts from the 2021–2022 school year were filed by just 11 people.[30] Based on a survey by PEN, about 10,000 books were banned from US schools by Republican-led censorship laws in the 2023/2024 academic year. This was nearly triple the amount of the previous academic year,[4] which had also seen a record level of bans.[31]
I’d love to see your sources.
Oh I pulled it out of my arse while paving somebody’s patio, actually. Something about Huckleberry Finn? But I’m glad we agree nobody should be banning books.
His comedy has always been edgy, and I think many comedians that are in this niche tend to be opposed to anything that tells them where the line is. When you go against “woke” you naturally gravitate towards being right-wing.
Alongside this, many of his friends are the same, particularly his boss Dana White. Surround yourself with assholes and eventually you become one, I guess.
Even pre-COVID, he was really into conspiracies, and his thoughts on TRT against most medical advice was pretty weird. He got away with it because he’s a fifty-something dude that runs a podcast. It’s fine when he’s broing out, but a danger when he’s spouting conspiracies that harm the average person.
I only know this guy as the Fear Factor guy and his podcast. I cannot imagine this guy ever being funny in any possible context. Make it stop.
I’ve watched one of his comedy shows. The best joke he had was a routine on how he couldn’t stop Brock Lesnar from raping him. Edgy, and that’s about it.
It’s a similar story for many of his comedy friends also.
The thing that made him popular was “he’s open to all ideas”. The issue with that stance is you end up leaning one way over another when the ideas come from people with absolute certainty vs ones that are self scrutinized. So, he ends up being a mouthpiece for the right as a result. He genuinely might be surprised to be accused of being a propagandist. His folly is that he is an idiot.
He still is incredibly popular, that’s why many people think his hosting Trump on his podcast helped swing the election.
He’s always been libertarian right wing. But, since he became generationally rich, he’s now full on Republican.
There was a guy on reddit back in the day who had a joe Rogan hate sub. Roe Jogan I think?
It was adjacent enough to the opieandanthony sub to be mentioned on occasion.
RIP KING they banned him for his many mental illness related brigadings but he was right
Where can I find this interview? Was this on his podcast?
I hate to link to that place, but I couldn’t be bothered to go through a million joe rogan podcasts to find this clip of a guest of joe rogan calling it on how this shit was going to go down.
‘Deep dark wells of perspective’, what an apt way to put it. Thanks for posting.
I wish I could upvote you more. But yes… this clip also has the old show vibe… it’s a shame he got sucked in.
Is this what the show usually is? Even though that guy is making a good point it takes him 5 minutes of "no bro… bro… " how is this so popular
It’s relatable to “low IQ individuals,” as their god emperor would say.
This article is out of a parody publication before anyone takes every word too seriously.
Damn, almost bit this onion too.
For just an instant, I really hoped this was a moment clarity for Joe. That he would just retire and that the next time I’d see him would be as a guest star on the News Radio reboot.
News Radio reboot
Dang how did i miss this coming down the pipe.
RIP Phil Hartman.
Fuck Andy dick
Wasn’t this Alex Joe’s legal defense?
¿Por que no los dos?
Yeah it’s definitely both
it’s entirely possible
POS. Fuck Rogan.
Fuck yeah, I think Some More News youtube channel mentions it in their moral panics video, that Rogan said that “he heard from a friend” that some schools are putting litter in classrooms because of furries or some shit ( truth is they do it for mass shootings) then when called out on it being an obvious lie he said he thought it was funny, guy is a piece of shit, just barely above the level of someone like Russel Brand whom I’d like to use to reenact that nice curbside scene from American History X whenever I think of him and the kind of shit he is spreading.
Rogan said that “he heard from a friend”
I call him Joe Rogaine for a reason
Podcasts are literally destroying the fabric of our society.
Kill the internet. We simply aren’t responsible enough for it.
We’re letting too many stupids with microphones warp our brains.
That’s a weird take, that podcasts are the issue and not monopolies, big tech, lack of privacy regulation, etc.
Podcasts are one of the few interoperable, democratic things left out there. Anybody can put one up, they use an open technology, RSS, for distribution, they’re not monetized by default, etc.
The real issue is that the Internet has an advertising duopoly made from two companies that harvest vast amounts of personal data. They promote controversial stuff like Joe Rogan because it keeps people engaged (read “angry”) and engaged people spend more time on their various sites which means more ad dollars flow in.
Spotify, which has a cozy relationship with the music industry cartel, signed Rogan to an enormous deal. So, again, not really podcasting that’s the issue here, it’s the music/entertainment cartel using him as a means of driving engagement with their platform.
Joe Rogan was actually a big Bernie Sanders supporter. It was only after Sanders betrayed the working class by first endorsing Hilary and then Biden that he and a lot of other people on the left turned to Trump. Sanders endorsing Hilary is what won Trump the election. Contrary to poplar narratives Trump supporters are not actually all racist morons, they are just pissed at the system. It’s funny how things have turned into their opposite. In the 00s the Republicans were the pro-war and pro-censorship party. Now it’s the Democrats. As for the war in Ukraine, that’s not Joe Rogan’s own opinion, it’s actually the thesis of one of the smartest scholars in geopolitics, John Mearsheimer.
This is a whole lot of nonesense. Bernie wasn’t ever the nominee. how does him endorsing the Democratic nominee push people on the left to vote for Trump when they support Bernie? By that logic if Bernie would have endorsed Trump then those voters would have voted for Hillary.
And if you’ve been paying attention and vote for an openly racist and sexist moron you are yourself a racist and sexist moron. There’s not a way around that. I can’t say I respect women and minorities and then turn around and vote for a guy that’s going to make womens’ and minorities lives’ so much worse. Best case I could make is that I wasn’t at all paying attention and I didn’t really know what I was voting for. Which isn’t exactly a good look either.
And just because dems are moving further right insofar as supporting the war in Ukraine and the Genocide in Palestine that doesn’t mean that Republicans have somehow flipped to being the progressive, anti-war, anti-cencorship party. Dems have moved further right sure, but Republicans have driven right off the end of the right side of the scale.
Bernie wasn’t ever the nominee. how does him endorsing the Democratic nominee push people on the left to vote for Trump when they support Bernie?
He wasn’t the nominee because the DNC screwed him over in 2016 in favor of Hilary. At that point Sanders had a choice, he could either break with the right wing democratic party or support the official democratic nominee. This was a historic opportunity to break apart the two-party system of the US and Sanders squandered it. The decision to endorse Hilary was seen by a large part of his support base as betrayal. Contradictory as it may seem both Sanders and Trump had tapped in the same mood of discontent among the masses. They were both seen as anti-establishment candidates and there was a big overlap among the people who supported them. But unlike Trump Sanders embraced the failed strategy of “lesser-evilism” and that directly led to Trump’s victory. If Sanders had stood firm history may have been different.
As for the Republicans going left wing. Neither of the two US parties is left wing but it’s a fact that the Republicans have taken the role from the Democrats of pretending to support the working class. They even use the phrase “working class” now, even on Fox News. That was unheard of only 10 years ago. When is the last time you heard a Democrat refer to the working class? It’s all “middle class” for them. The Democrats are the party of Hollywood now, not the workers. So yea, the republicans are using left-wing rhetoric now, the dems are moving more and more to the right. Identity politics is not “left wing”. It’s just what passes for left wing in the US liberal circles, and people are tired of it.
History would be exactly what happened with Ralf Nader - everyone blaming him for the outcome.
I Nader’s case it was the de facto most consequential election imo - Al Gore x Bush. We would be fighting climate change properly and the terrorism response would’ve been significantly different.
Bernie was pragmatic and lived to fight another day. And the progressive movement gained momentum.
And the progressive movement gained momentum.
There is nothing “progressive” about identity politics.
Ok, now you’re showing your true colors. You don’t care about real issues, you care about how people live their lives. Have fun with that mindset.
Identity politics is just liberal nonsense that distracts from the class struggle. Listening to these people on TV is unbearable. All they can talk about is gender and race. They think that is the only thing that matters. While in fact most people are way more concerned about wages, jobs, and economic opportunities. It’s no wonder they can’t win an election. The cherry on the cake is how they accused black or hispanic people who voted for Trump as “sexist”. These people are completely out of touch with reality.
Ah, I misinterpreted your meaning. Didn’t realize you were saying the alternative was for Bernie to run as third party. While I disagree that that would have ended with a different outcome I can at least see your logic there. Fine.
But as far as the working class thing goes are you just arguing that Republicans are saying more lefty things or are you meaning to imply that they are actually more left leaning than Democrats? If it’s the former I don’t really see how that even matters. Whether Democrats say “middle” or “working” doesn’t really change the fact that the economic policies put forward by the Harris campaign were designed to benefit lower income families and individuals while the policies put forward by the Trump campaign were designed to benefit the upper class. Republicans can say “working class” all they want. It doesn’t mean they all of a sudden became progressive. Theyre just lying through their teeth. Just as they’ve always done. That’s not to say no dem has ever lied but there’s a vast divide between the two parties when it comes to their relationship with reality.
the economic policies put forward by the Harris campaign were designed to benefit lower income families and individuals while the policies put forward by the Trump campaign were designed to benefit the upper class.
They were both designed to benefit the upper class, let’s not kid ourself. Also let’s not forget that as the vice president of Biden, Harris is complicit in genocide. That is reason enough not to vote for her. I for one am glad Genocide Joe is leaving. Trump may be a reactionary bigot but maybe that’s exactly what we need.
They were both designed to benefit the upper class, let’s not kid ourself.
Except they objectively weren’t. Harris’s tax plan would have significantly increased taxes for the highest earners in the US. Whereas Trump is going to significantly cut the taxes of those same high earners. You’re either being purposefully “both sides are bad” or you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Also let’s not forget that as the vice president of Biden, Harris is complicit in genocide.
No arguments here. That’s not what we were talking about. But let’s not pretend that trump is somehow better in that regard when he is so so so much worse. At least Kamala tried to act like she didn’t want to support Israel.
Trump may be a reactionary bigot but maybe that’s exactly what we need.
Just truely a ridiculous statement.
I agree with most that you said, except supporting Ukraine does not mean moving rightwing. Most western far right parties actually support Russia and are in turn supported by Russia, which actually makes it so that supporting Ukraine against Russian agression is explicitly not a rightwing thing to do.
Yeah, I didn’t mean to imply supporting Ukraine made dems more right wing. That was poor wording on my part.
Not all are racist morons. Some are just extremely hateful.
Bernie did not “betray” anyone, fuck off with that horseshit.
Well, that’s not how most of his supporters felt. A huge portion of Sander’s supporters went to vote for Trump after he endorsed Hilary.
Could be worse
Could be Lex Friedman
