Candace Fails screamed for someone in the Texas hospital to help her pregnant daughter. “Do something,” she pleaded, on the morning of Oct. 29, 2023.
Nevaeh Crain was crying in pain, too weak to walk, blood staining her thighs. Feverish and vomiting the day of her baby shower, the 18-year-old had gone to two different emergency rooms within 12 hours, returning home each time worse than before.
The first hospital diagnosed her with strep throat without investigating her sharp abdominal cramps. At the second, she screened positive for sepsis, a life-threatening and fast-moving reaction to an infection, medical records show. But doctors said her six-month fetus had a heartbeat and that Crain was fine to leave.
Now on Crain’s third hospital visit, an obstetrician insisted on two ultrasounds to “confirm fetal demise,” a nurse wrote, before moving her to intensive care.
By then, more than two hours after her arrival, Crain’s blood pressure had plummeted and a nurse had noted that her lips were “blue and dusky.” Her organs began failing.
Hours later, she was dead.
Fails, who would have seen her daughter turn 20 this Friday, still cannot understand why Crain’s emergency was not treated like an emergency.
But that is what many pregnant women are now facing in states with strict abortion bans, doctors and lawyers have told ProPublica.
Absolutely horrifying.
The second ER diagnosed her with sepsis and then sent her home because her fetus had a heartbeat.
I’m disgusted. If you are a woman, you need to get the fuck out of these death trap states. It is not safe for you there.
The second ER diagnosed her with sepsis and then sent her home
That right there should be criminal charges. Pregnancy staus is irrelevant at that point. Sepsis will kill you if untreated.
It was the politicians in Texas that harmed this woman. Not the hospital. The Texas AG sent letters to every hospital in Texas saying he would press criminal charges to anyone granting an emergency abortion. As hard as it is for poor and middle class workers, there’s no way any nurse doctor or hospital is going to put themselves in front of the Texas government. If they could they would have left the state already. (many have.) Small towns in forced birth States literally have no pregnancy care facilities because the staff has all left.
Just following orders.
Imo it’s premeditated murder.
But they saved the “baby” right?
But they “saved” the “baby” right?
Fify - the baby didn’t make it.
…they said it may have been possible to save both the teenager and her fetus if she had been admitted earlier for close monitoring and continuous treatment.
There was a chance Crain could have remained pregnant, they said. If she had needed an early delivery, the hospital was well-equipped to care for a baby on the edge of viability.
It’s one of the main reasons I got a vasectomy
Maybe don’t let your conservative colleagues know that. They tend to think less of men who get vasectomies for some reason. That could negatively affect how you are perceived at work. Just FYI, from a guy who spent a lifetime working with these cunts.
I tell everybody as soon as they ask me if I have kids and I live in a very, very conservative area. Fuck em.
Luckily everyone I work with are liberals. Remote jobs are pretty nice.
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Is that even true?? You still have your balls, the sperm just doesn’t have an exit route anymore. Like, biology is weird as shit, I could see that somehow causing testosterone to drop slightly for some weird ass reason, but I’ve never heard of it.
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It is absolutely not true. A vasectomy cannot lower testosterone.
Unfortunately, conservatives are opposed to science, so the research on this topic will be ignored by them.
I figured, but man, they’re always learning weird new shit about the body, lol.
The funny thing is the dudes worried about low T don’t know T that is too high (according to your body, not according to what you want) just converts to estrogen… which you would think they would be a lot more concerned about, given their anxieties about being too feminine!
Lol, I did not know that! That’s good to know!
the second ER did not diagnose her with sepsis, they diagnosed her with strep throat and a UTI. some portion of responsibility IMO lies with that OB-GYN for screwing up that diagnosis, although i understand the larger point of the article seems to be that doctors are reluctant to diagnose or treat really any condition in pregnant women for fear of getting legally crushed by the state
At the second, she screened positive for sepsis
From the article.
The first one said strep. The second one said sepsis.
it’s possible that I’m misunderstanding here but I think the sepsis diagnosis is from a retrospective review of her file. at the time there was no sepsis diagnosis. they even specifically call out that doctor for having been under review for missing diagnoses in the past
After two hours of IV fluids, one dose of antibiotics, and some Tylenol, Crain’s fever didn’t go down, her pulse remained high, and the fetal heart rate was abnormally fast, medical records show. Hawkins noted that Crain had strep and a urinary tract infection, wrote up a prescription and discharged her.
Hawkins had missed infections before. Eight years earlier, the Texas Medical Board found that he had failed to diagnose appendicitis in one patient and syphilis in another. In the latter case, the board noted that his error “may have contributed to the fetal demise of one of her twins.” The board issued an order to have Hawkins’ medical practice monitored; the order was lifted two years later. (Hawkins did not respond to several attempts to reach him.)
Could be. I read the strep and UTI as having been written down either from the previous hospital or by the patient and her mother based on the previous hospital visit.
And while it sounds like Hawkins is not someone you’d want to be in charge of your care, it seems like there were a lot more failures here than just one bad doctor.
The first hospital diagnosed her with strep throat without investigating her sharp abdominal cramps. At the second, she screened positive for sepsis, a life-threatening and fast-moving reaction to an infection, medical records show. But doctors said her six-month fetus had a heartbeat and that Crain was fine to leave.
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Is there a database that collected these cases? I’m not from the US, but I think it would make a lot of sense to have a website that documents all those cases so I’ve could point people to it if necessary.
I imagine it would be a HIPAA violation for hospitals to release these details; you only hear about the ones that the individual families decide to make public by speaking to journalists…
…so it’s even worse/more common than you think.
Working as designed…by fucking ghouls
Around 1 in 5 pregnancies, that’s 20%, end in miscarriage. There’s a bit of a genetic lottery that is random within this crazy sensitive process of creating a baby. You can be doing everything right, but it doesn’t matter. You can lose the pregnancy and many do. And then, statistically, their next pregnancy is healthy and without complication.
There’s no fault to a person in this progress, just like there’s no fault to how a flower grows - some have more pedals, some have crooked stems, some never grow and stay seeds in the ground. Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy is akin to them having you roll a 5 sided dice and shooting anyone who lands on a “4” between the eyes.
Ignorance and fear rule the red areas on the US map. Of course those red areas are populated predominately by trees, lakes and mountains, all of which are likely more intelligent and empathetic than the few frightened human voters spattered throughout that share that very rural landscape.
Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy
Texas didn’t kill her for loosing a pregnancy - Texas killed her by making her losing the pregnancy take too long by terrifying doctors out of speeding the process along, causing her to be in and out of hospital ERs repeatedly while doctors essentially played “hot potato” with her despite all of them knowing what needed done out of fear of being thrown in prison for a century if they did it, causing her to eventually develop sepsis and die.
It’s much, much worse than “killing her for losing a pregnancy”, and exactly how awful it is and how it got to that point needs to be spelled out in detail. Otherwise you’ll have people pointing out that the Texas law has an exception for medical emergencies, and it needs pointed out and doubled down on that by the time the doctors were reasonably certain that a conservative Texas court would agree with them it was a medical emergency (aka she’d already developed a systemic infection), she was already doomed.
The sentiment is there, but 1 in 5 ending in miscarriage is not 1 in 5 that would be deadly if a miscarriage happened.
Also, that number is known miscarriages (and is the high end i believe of the range). Even more happen before the mother even knows they are pregnant.
Part of the reason you don’t tell people before the first trimester is over is because miscarriages before are common.
Respectfully, I don’t know where you are pulling that equivalence from? I don’t believe I said 1 in 5 would likely die from losing a pregnancy? The extreme of what’s on the table being discussed is that Texas wants to overtly punish people for not being perfect fetal vessels - denying needed medical care and charging for crimes if they accuse that a miscarriage was coerced as determine by unqualified, backward religiously driven opinion.
As you raise the point though, that “would be deadly” mention is dependent on the unknown of what happens when you deny basic medical maintenance to “common” conditions. Many miscarriages require medical abortion, regardless of how “smooth” they progress, to clear any remnants of the fetus from the uterus and avoid complications and dangerous bleeding, infection, etc that could harm that person or their womb and decrease chances of successful implantation, pregnancy and birth in the future, if desired. It’s a horribly painful and emotional process, something that nobody enters into lightly and that often is required for willing parents to be having difficulty conceiving and dealing with that loss, on top of everything else mentioned.
Respectfully, I don’t know where you are pulling that equivalence from? I don’t believe I said 1 in 5 would likely die from losing a pregnancy?
Ummm dude
Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy is akin to them having you roll a 5 sided dice and shooting anyone who lands on a “4” between the eyes.
You totally did, and this is what triggered my response.
What are you talking about, friend? I feel like you have a fundamental disconnect here… Do you not know what “akin to” means?
Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy is akin to them having you roll a 5 sided dice and shooting anyone who lands on a “4” between the eyes.
Akin to
very similar to something
Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy is very similar to having you roll a 5 sided dice and shooting anyone who lands on a “4” between the eyes.
Your equating the 1 in 5 miscarriages to having a 1 in 5 chance of death but 1 in 5 miscarriages do not have a chance of death very similar to being shot if you roll a 4 on a 5 sided dice which is a 1 in 5 chance of death.Edit: Just cleaning this up as what I wrote got confusing…
Your saying that 1 in 5 pregencies have a miscarriage (20%) and equate a miscarriage that happens 1/5 times, to being shot 1/5 times which would be death. But an (edit untreated) miscarriage doesn’t mean death. So it is not very similar to having a 1/5 chance of death by being shot.
Maybe you don’t know what you wrote?
I mean, Texas wants to make miscarriage a murder charge and they are a death penalty state, so there’s that. There’s some hyperbole to make a point in original statement, but If it makes you feel better, Texas is currently forcing you to play Russian roulette if you land on that 4 - doesn’t change the spirit of the point being made. A gun is being put to your head with a meaningful chance of death.
You’re arguing semantics here to avoid discussing the substance. Say something meaningful about the actual point or shut up at this point.
I love how post something very wrong, challenge it twice and ask if i even know what some words mean, which you clearly didnt, and then wave off how wrong you are and tell me to shut up.
I even said the sentiment is there.
What a jerk, you must be fun at parties
Hey, remember that former Trump aide and professional jackass, John McEntee, who said he didn’t see any evidence of women being injured as a result of anti-abortion laws? Funnily enough, he has been conspicuously silent on the subject since. Instead, he’s now making “jokes” about repealing the 19th amendment. A real piece of work.
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Remember Todd Akin’s comment on sexual assault?
"It seems to me, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare,” Mr. Akin said of pregnancies from rape. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something: I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be of the rapist, and not attacking the child.”
Not that it matters if an abortion is requested due to rape or any other reason, but this quote really drives home that it isn’t really about protecting children despite that last line: they think all women who get abortions should be punished for being murderous sluts despite all evidence to the contrary.
It sucks to be surrounded by enemies.
Every bit as hostile towards normal folks just trying to live their lives as an invading army. Minus the government doing anything about it.
Let them see this dead fetus they picked over a healthy girl every other night.
Heh, there was a guy in my purview yesterday whose costume was Guts. Nice recollection you’ve summoned up.
Ahhh shit. It’s a young attractive white girl. They might actually pay attention to this one. Maybe…
Not married, though, so I wouldn’t count in it.
No, Fox News prefers to talk about the Democrat villains or the Haitian scapegoats instead.
God’s will, am I right?
She did her part keeping the hospital beds available for more profitable patients. It’s the American way. As long as our hospitals (and government) prioritize profits over health, there will be no end to these stories.
I keep saying single-payer healthcare is better than what we have now and get attacked for it. “I’m fine - you’re fine - my kids are fine! Stop saying you want everything for free!” Just because we are ok doesn’t mean everyone else is, you selfish prick.
Remind them it ain’t free. I pay a really small amount of my income tax for this health care.
I mean. All-in, my total income tax is 1% lower than yours on the same income, and I get the healthcare thrown in, and our lower 10% now get free dental care, and now it’s covering more than fillings and cleanings, and now we’re talking vision care … But yeah, just efficient. Not free.
Reading this I remember something I heard from a show about people working in the ER where the, had something similar(pregnant woman comes into the hospital with something live threatening) “The life of the baby is currently irrelevant, because if we can’t save the mother, the kid will Die too.”
This is exactly the goal of force birth policies.
Women who don’t survive are considered weak and must be cleansed for Republicans’ perfect society. It’s eugenics. Killing women is the point, in the minds of Republicans every woman who dies deserves it.
Conservatives cannot see women as humans. Equality is incompatible with the hierarchy the conservative worldview is built upon.
I wonder how many doctors move to Texas due to their believes. How do you say strep throat and septics are the same? Strep is a quick and easy test.
This terrifies me for my daughter. Not just being pregnant but any illness.
Because Texas is literally threatening their lives for giving the right diagnosis. Its a lose lose situation for everyone involved. So hospitals, doctors and nurses are taking the lessor evil by letting individual woman die. The alternative is death penalty and the hospital being heavily fined or closed. The Texas AG publicly said he would go after anyone in Texas that provides an abortion.
