Seeing this post made me flash back to how often wage theft happened to me during holidays as a teenager.
4th of July, New Year’s… Didn’t even know about time and a half.
Fuck, you Americans are getting ripped off. Here the legal minimum is 2.25x pay for public holidays (Australia)
1.5x? Are ya serious? That’s like the lowest tier of overtime. Or sunday penalty rates.
For real, I can’t believe people aren’t even getting that.
(Illegal underpayment still happening here, aside).
Even then, it’s by state. Some states have no holiday pay.
I once worked a job where if I was five minutes late or had to leave early the shift before or the shift after a holiday I would forfeit my holiday pay. That’s when I learned that holiday pay isn’t guaranteed in the states. Never worked another holiday at that job again.
That’s rough .
Only Rhode island and Massachusetts have it for hourly workers.
Had a (roughly) similar experience when I used to work for a construction company. Once, a job was behind schedule, and they asked us to voluntarily work on a Saturday. Virtually everyone did, because working on a weekend got you time and a half pay.
Instead of a full day, though, they sent us home at lunchtime. Nobody was expecting that. One guy summed it up pretty well: “I got up at 6 AM on a Saturday to make less than I did yesterday? This is bullshit!”
After that, whenever our bosses asked if we’d come in on a Saturday, someone asked if it would be a full day or a half day. When our bosses said “I don’t know” (which is what they said every time) nobody came in.
They got away with exploiting us once, but completely screwed themselves in the long term. I was (and still am) very proud of my coworkers for continuing to hold management accountable for their decisions.
Can you add some context? I don’t understand. You worked half a day, are they not paying you time and a half for that half day?
If OP and coworkers normally start at 8 and finish at 5 (9 hours of work), if you assume they ordinarily make $10/hr (for the sake of an example), they all made $90 for their work on Friday. If they came in at 8am on Saturday to be sent home at 12pm, then even at time and a half, they only made $60 for their work on Saturday
Completely legal, sure, but I wouldn’t want to drag my arse out of bed at 6am on Saturday to earn less than I do on a regular work day
I guess it’s a matter of perspective? I personally would be happy to work half a day and get paid at a better rate than I normally would even if it was for a short period. Assuming I wasn’t spending an hour commuting to work or something.
Edit: Who’s the grumpy ass who’s downvoting me for sharing a personal opinion? I’m not even judging OP or anything.
Not a matter of perspective. If someone offers me a day but only gives me half a day, they fucked me over. It’s not just the money, but also the ability to do other things that afternoon, because they were dishonest.
Yeah, I can understand that perspective. My problem was that it was both dishonest and insulting. And yes, the commute was about an hour. I would have rather slept late. That’s what weekends are supposed to be for.
When its your choice, yeah - it’s a matter of personal preference. But when it’s like “hey surprise, you’re not getting the work you thought you were getting” - that’s not so cool.
in construction you’re always at least an hour away.
it’s about the trust. mgmt said, “you want to work tomorrow?” implying it as a full day. they then turned around and doubled down and kept lying to them.
no, if your employer does this, they have zero investment in their own workforce and will have zero problems firing the lot when it’s convenient.
People would need to turn down or cancel other work opportunities that day, or at the very least miss other scheduled plans or errands… they should have been upfront about it.
Yes, they did pay us time and a half for the short time we were there, but that isn’t really the point.
Baku, who replied to you directly, summed it up perfectly.
I’m also going to quote a reply you may not have seen, from GreenKnight23. It’s excellent as well.
in construction you’re always at least an hour away.
it’s about the trust. mgmt said, “you want to work tomorrow?” implying it as a full day. they then turned around and doubled down and kept lying to them.
no, if your employer does this, they have zero investment in their own workforce and will have zero problems firing the lot when it’s convenient.
A half of tina is a pretty decent chunk of meth, you probably don’t need that much.
Who the heck is Tina?
Uhhh
Autocorrect typo for “time”.
Tina and a half? Do people not proof read?
There Is No Alternative. Tina.
Speaking of people who get exploited for inadequate pay …
I have a special love for that episode where they’re made to clean the beach, and Louise learns about negotiating compensation for their labor. (And that rich people will use you and fuck you over in a heartbeat.)
For anyone unfamiliar, it’s Season 12, episode 6. “Beach, Please.”
Conversely, I despise the film which tells the moral tale of “if you’re rich enough you can murder people and get away with it.”
Mistypes drive engagement.
The shit that is done nowadays to farm engagement is ridiculous.
Everyone focuses on the typo when dude did an awesome thing. Reddit doesn’t allow title edits and GBoard is shit at producing the words you want, and then dude gets a bunch of Tina jokes.
They got screwed thrice; by their boss, by Reddit, and by their keyboard
I mean, blame Gboard all you want, they didn’t proofread something that can’t be edited later
That’s 100% on them and they deserve the Tina jokes
They also deserve praise for what they did in the OP
Yeah, but they chose to use Reddit and gboard. Like 2/3 self-inflicted.
Yeah, and they choose to participate in capitalism by being employed. What a Rube! What a buffoon! 100% self inflicted.
Personally I’ve made my own smartphone out of glue and matchsticks, and stuff I stole from Walmart. I only post via a VPN, and only to servers that run on biofuel and solar. If you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go mock the homeless for using iPhones. Have they no appreciation for the privacy they lose?
I feel like you are reacting to something that happened outside this thread.
On android, what keyboard do you recommend for swipe typing?
Moving the cursor by swiping in space bar is also something I haven’t found in other keyboards
Edit: thanks for all the replies, I’ll be checking them all out.
Just as an aside, I hadn’t heard of that cursor feature before, and this is wonderful. Thanks for drawing my attention to it. I have to keep my work phone loaded with all the Google/MS spyware, so I still use Gboard on that phone. This will make typing work emails a lot easier.
You’re welcome.
SOB’s. Thinking they are entitled to have poor Tina… And the half bit is extra worrying.
I’ve never gotten Tina and a half… 😔
NEVER work holidays for 1.5x pay if all employees gets paid 1x. I learned my lesson as a teen, once you cancel out the 1x from everyone, you’re working for half pay. fuck that.
edit: to further explain, many retail places will offer 1.5x pay for those that work, but those that don’t work get paid 1x anyway. so you’re basically working for half pay once you remove the 1x pay from everyone.
Usually, you’d get your holiday pay at 1x that everyone gets and then you’d get 1.5x for working the holiday.
When your own laziness undermines the point you were trying to make.
Starbucks may deserve all the stick that they get for their labor practices, but here in Canada on holidays they pay double time and a half (or about CAD $50/hour).
here in Canada on holidays they pay double time and a half
Maybe in your industry. The legal requirement is time and a half.
Did you miss the first half of their comment?
Well that’s what I get for commenting when I’m still waking up
