That is one shitty therapist
I had the exact same conversation with mine, when I was 20.
It’s hard to believe that you’ll have a better experience elsewhere, especially when you have already spent hundreds of € on that one.
Say no to therapists, say yes to callgirls. They charge less too.
Lots of shit therapists out there.
A friend of mine, his ex-wife’s therapist encouraged her to have an affair. An old highschool fling reached out to her, and she was essentially perpetually stuck in highschool due to some intense trauma around that age. Therapist said to go for it.
Always look at a potential spouse’s friends before getting married. Do they cheat, slack off, and just generally kind of suck? Your spouse-to-be will almost certainly follow their example. I say this because most people’s “therapist” are their friends and if their friends are maladjusted assholes you can probably expect more of the same.
When your therapist is trying to trick you into labelling yourself an incel.
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TheRapist
Probably fake, but a therapist should never say anything like that. I’m in my 30’s and a virigin, and no doctor, therapist, etc., has ever asked me anything close to that. And if they did, I’d be searching for a new therapist. Wouldn’t even finish the session.
Uncle in therapy for second nervous breakdown. Therapist tells aunt that hell be a dead weight aroind her neck. Tells him to go fishing - he hates fishing. This was a recommended therapist from a good GP.
Another family member with past addiction and suicide attempts went to a different GP seeking therapy. Was told by the GP humans have been to the moon and can do anything so stop being so depressed. Wtf does that even mean.
Shitty people are in every profession.
“Nelson Mandela stopped racism in South Africa decades ago, so cheer up!”
That’s about the story of how am I about to try a fourth one in so many years. Gosh is it hard to find a good one ; taking the step to recognise you should see someone isn’t the hard part. Picking up your phone and call one isn’t the hard part. Fiding one that works for you is the damnedest hardest part of it, period.
Don’t drop it. Keep trying.
Yup, good therapists exist, but like most professions, finding one that works for you can be difficult.
Having a bad therapy experience doesn’t mean you aren’t fixable, it means the therapist sucks.
So true. Unfortunately both men rarely talk about feelings and were more or less forced by circumstance to seek help for mental health.
They already hated the idea and now hate it more. When they have some sort of future relapse they’ll be be even more closed off to seeking help.
Sucks.
Best therapist I ever had, had barely an office, that he split with his wife who did a separate type of counseling. He didnt advertise that I could tell, no preamble, no official stuff, no formal psychological analysis. Felt like I was just talking to a supportive buddy. Sometimes he would just tell me stories about when he was younger and had substance abuse issues and I would barely talk.
Wish I could say there was a trick to finding a good therapist. I picked the closest one to my house, which was a very tiny run down multi office building hidden behind a round-about and giant trees.
Some doctors go to school for 20 years only to say the dumbest shit
Even if it’s not fake, in every other instance, if you have a bad dentist who says shit that makes you uncomfortable, you get a new dentist, happens every day, bad dentists get bad reviews and open shitty practices in bad neighborhoods and people expect the care to be substandard. Rarely do you even hear stories about that kind of thing because people have normalized dental care.
The fact that this shit is controversial shows just how far we have to go before people start taking their fucking minds seriously. You know, only the most important part of your physical, living experience.
The older ones tend to still think that way.
One of my previous psychiatrists got kicked out being the head of his department because he was using his position to lobby heavily to keep Asexuality in the the DSM.
I may have once believed this would never happen but after a therapist once told me I was wrong for outting a pedophile I can’t imagine this being that far fetched.
She thinks you’re hot anon. Bang your therapist
I feel like I need to say that if this was your experience you had a really shit therapist and deserve better. I’ve felt like this with a therapist before and it’s terrible. It’s ok to drop a therapist over this and try a different one.
My bet is this is fake. A large part of incel groups is making sure no one seeks help, so they stay longer. If you demonize therapists then that’s one more path to then existing removed.
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I know better than to assume that anything posted to 4chan actually happened, but I also know from personal experience that moments just like this one DO happen to people. So even if this particular story is a fiction or was intended to serve some other purpose, it’s portraying a familiar moment for many people and I wanted to acknowledge that and encourage people to seek better help.
But don’t seek it through Better Help.
Seem like just opening up to a friend and them questioning things. Doesn’t sound like a proper therapist.
It’s honestly hard to imagine how someone who’s this shit can even attain the title of “therapist”.
Welcome to America, where we have degree mills you can buy doctorates from and an understaffed health industry that will take whoever they can get. Never trust that a medical professional will act with your best interest in mind until you’ve established a relationship with them and know they’re actually competent.
So many people have this experience and never come back. Took me 4 to find the right one. (Meaning good at their job and had a good raport with me)
I feel like I would be a better therapist than this and I have no training or desire to get in that field! But I sure as shit wouldn’t go out of my way to shame someone with low self-esteem who’s literally trying to improve themself. If that conversation was verbatim, I’m not exaggerating when I said the therapist should be suspended.
betterhelp ahh therapist
You can actually say “ass” here, btw.
Fuckin’ mainstream social media-ass comment.
No they’re on .world so bad words like “ass” deal psychic damage to them.
I’m on .world.
Ass.
Fuck.
Shit.Stop, you’ll get fucking hurt!
I read it as “better help uhh therapist” because of the stupid ass self censorship. I’m not blaming the user for doing it, just annoyed for natural real world language getting hamstrung to satisfy advertisers. How long until “tisk tisk tisk! You can’t say ‘ahh’, that’s a naughty word!”?
That’s really, genuinely never made sense to me. If I’m going to say “freaking cold” it has the exact same meaning as “fucking cold”. So what’s the difference? Yet one is acceptable and one is, *clutches pearls*, a bad word. :O
Yeah but saying ahh is funny
Ass is just crass (also, this has the same energy as redditors who complain about emojis)
I mean, if the specific word you want to use seems to be an inappropriate tone, maybe find a different way to say what you’re trying to say instead of injecting a filter-bypass replacement for the same word you didn’t feel was an appropriate tone?
Betterhelp-coded therapist
Sounds like Betterhelp’s caliber of therapists
Lemme guess, this “therapist” was via Betterhelp
For a couple of examples
Edit: I see you didn’t post the original comment. Oops!
Ahh means ass? Drag is out of touch.
Find a better therapist. Just because someone goes to school and gets a professional credential doesn’t mean they don’t suck at their job.
Why talk to a professional when I can simply talk to my very normal, very mentally healthy anons on the green text site?
Even if they aren’t bad at their job, someone who doesn’t have enough similarity of life experience to have a basic understanding of what you’re going through could be a bad fit anyway.
The whole “similarity of life experience” bit is the hard part if you’re an outsider without much in common with the liberal elites that make up the vast majority of therapists.
It’s really not a surprise that therapy is recommended pretty exclusively by people from the same demographic group as therapists, nor that people who get excluded from the highly exclusionary and non-diverse liberal society tend to strongly dislike the profession.
I can’t for the life of me figure out why you’re being downvoted. It’s absolutely true. Maybe it’s because people don’t understand what you mean by “liberal elites”? That’s not a synonym for democrat voters. It’s people who have been served by the status quo (neoliberalism) their whole lives and therefore see nothing wrong with it. Conservatives (especially the never trump or ambivalent about trump types) are just right wing liberals… conservatism falls under liberalism.
Liberal ≠ left.
Liberal elites are people like Bill Gates and Oprah. The 1%.
No, that therapist is. There are shitty people in every profession.
Men: never go to a female therapist, they will NEVER be able to understand you from a man’s perspective. All they see is abundance, with men chasing them and paying attention to them, and will never understand how few choices those men in the bottom-80% are left with.
Uhh Ohh
I had a therapist that eventually deemed me too dangerous to myself to be in their care, so she upgraded me to super-therapy where I have to go like 9 hours a week and work with a group and like 5 therapists but I still don’t get much value out of it :c so yeah, therapy definitely isn’t for everyone
sounds like providing good therapy isn’t for every therapist
that’s probably more accurate, I probably just need to find a better therapist
Even knowing a shitty human therapist personally didn’t shake me. It was dating apps. The amount of women I see that I’d run from at full speed, then notice they’re therapists… Jfc (I 100% believe everyone should be in therapy. There are shitty physical health doctors too.)
Why should everybody be in therapy? That’s like saying everybody should see a physiotherapist.
I mean, with how common back problems are in people of all ages, maybe we should all be seeing physiotherapists
You’re reminding me of a certain quote… “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” -J.Krishnamurti
As fucked up as this world is, if you’re well adjusted to it, you’re broken and probably should see someone, and if you’re not, you need therapy to make it through the evolving dystopian hellscape. …so yeah, I think that’s what they’re saying.
I mean… yes? Some days I feel that way, and reading your words makes sense to me. In this case I simply meant we should care for our mental health like physical and normalize it. But seeing dude compare therapy to needing a specialist for an acute problem, then reading your response… Yeah, you’re def right in this case. Broken is normative.
This is a good opportunity to ask why sex work is still illegal (unless you’re rich ofc) in the US.
We could basically end the incel phenomenon and deal a huge blow to the sex slavery trade overnight (and for very little cost to taxpayers or society) by making sex work legal and bringing it into daylight.
Sex work is illegal because giving people the ability to use something they own (their body) as their own means of production removes a barrier to success, causing some of the power to slip away from the owning class. If I can charge $200 an hour for hole rental services I don’t have to work a corporate job, which means my labor can’t be exploited. This is (for the owning class) of course a bad thing.
(1) That logic doesn’t stop people from working independently at one of many different other trades, and (2) sex work if legalized would gravitate towards a corporate vs. independent breakdown of jobs just like other trades. It’s not like porn stars aren’t making money for the “owning class.”
Don’t have anything to add as I agree, just wanted to say your username gave me a chuckle!
…Unless I’m actually an idiot and it wasn’t a geology pun lol :P
It is a pun thank you I worked really hard on that username 🥹
Sex workers are people, not a prescription.
I agree, of course, in the same sense that health care workers, firefighters, and carpenters are people and not prescriptions. Being people doesn’t preclude their work from being useful to society.
Ftr Incels exist in Australia and they have a red light district.
Incels don’t want to pay for sex.
Don’t get me wrong, I think it should be legal too if for no other reason that it makes it safer for the sex workers.
But just manage your expectations of what sexual deviants expect as Sex work doesn’t put an end to that part of the equation. Buying sex is still available even if illegal and you’re still going to have sexual deviants,psychopaths and incels. For Those groups in particular it is less about sex and more about power (and often hatred for women) hence the toxic energy they bring into sex.
Another issue for some deviants is sex workers carry a degree of consent. And shitheads like that aren’t looking for consent.
incels may not be seeking for paid sex as much as they want more power top relationship towards women(or feel entitled to) but they are unwilling to work on their personality. So their problem stems not from sex but more from their personality and feeling unloved with the sex they feel entitled to combined into that.
You don’t bring that kind of hate energy for an entire gender just over being horny.
If you want to deal with a problematic group, in this case incels, I don’t think it’s generally helpful to consider them a monolith. There’s different clades in these types of groups that have different views and motivations. I think you’re probably right, I did set my expectations too high there, but I do think that there’s some quantum of incels who really do end up getting into the toxic shit because of the sexual frustration. I think it’s probably much fairer to say that you could defuse at least a meaningful number of incels with legal sex work.
Weird. That’s an awesome intrusion point to get into the depth of why they think they didn’t succeed and from there … piece of cake on the professional side, hard and emotionally tiring work on the patients side! What a shitty therapist. This was ist… the trust check and she blew it.
Jesus Christ, that tops the worst thing I’ve ever heard a therapist say.
I heard a tale about a therapist in Iowa who after talking about issues with anxiety recommended eating brains shaped foods like, broccoli and walnuts.
Fucking ridiculous. Obviously you need to eat food shaped like your skull in order to enhance the beneficial humours.
What’s the weather like in 1825?
Sadly it was only 4 years ago. But Iowa does feel like that sometimes.
I went to five therapy sessions and it was like a speed run of college theory on CBT. Dude never stopped talking and we never talked about me or my problems.
I find it funny how many therapy stories on this platform are about cock and ball torture (CBT). Is that an American thing because of health insurance? /s
Jokes on you I’m into that shit
