• samus12345@lemm.ee
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    15 days ago

    Whenever he gets cheers and applause in a news comedy show, the host always looks uncomfortable. You can almost see the leash of their corporate overlords being tugged.

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      I mean, it’s not just that. it’s legal liability. part of the reason they charged him with terrorism is to tie any show of support to a crime as well. supporting him is like supporting al-qaeda now. so I ask you, DO YOU CONDEMN HUMMUS? DO YOU CONDOM MORDOR OF CEOS?

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        15 days ago

        All it did was show a lot of people what bullshit a charge of “terrorism” is.

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          For the longest time, people thought “terrorism” meant “very evil,” so now that someone who isn’t evil is being labeled a terrorist, they are upset.

          In reality, if you try to change politics with violence against a civilian, you are a terrorist.

          “One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.”

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            That’s not what the law in NY actually says. It’s not merely that you’re trying to change government policy through violence. It’s that you’re trying to do it through intimidating government employees. The prosecutor screwed the pooch on this one. Luigi didn’t actually meet the terrorism modifier requirements in NY. At least that’s what I got from Legal Eagle.

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                That’s an incredibly flimsy argument. People have been writing messages on ammo since ammo existed. There’s not even an established pattern of terrorists writing on ammo - they’re more likely to claim credit for an attack after the fact and include their message there.

                Those were words for him. Deny and defend this, mother fucker.

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                  You assert my argument is flimsy, yet your argument is that someone is going to be able to read the casings popping out of a guy’s gun shooting at him from behind?

                  Lol. Lmao, even.

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            14 days ago

            It certainly causes more terror, but mostly just with the rabble, not the ultra wealthy who actually matter.

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        It is perfectly legal to advocate for illegal activity. The first amendment has broad protections for this. SCOTUS has ruled on this even recently. You need to be able to advocate for illegal activity if you want people to have any chance to change the law.

        It is perfectly legal to come right out on national television and say, “Luigi did nothing wrong. The president and governor should pardon him, and the mayor of NYC should throw him a parade.”

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          lol… those who remember the 2000s know that’s all out the window if the government says anything is terrorism.

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            The right to free speech and the right to peaceably assemble hasn’t been respected at any point during US history.

            Not immediately after the country was formed when they signed the sedition act into law.

            Not while people were protesting for abolitionism.

            Not while people were protesting for women’s suffrage.

            Not while people held demonstrations while on strike.

            Not during the cold war and red scare.

            Not during the civil rights movement.

            Not during the George Floyd protests.

            They’re not going to start now.

  • Snapz@lemmy.world
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    Remember remember!

    The 4th of December

    A CEO dies all alone;

    On the street he was lain,

    cold, pale and in pain,

    thousands of deaths that he own.

    The decisions he’d struck,

    Layers removed from the slaughter,

    Were a shareholders treat,

    Your dead mother or daughter.

    Those investors all wait, on that cold winter morn,

    Still unaware of profit potential they’d mourn,

    Poking at hotel breakfast, bored looks on their face

    As Brian’s when he denied and delayed at great pace

    Endless growth, deposed, on behalf of us all

    Luigi didn’t do it, we were hiking in Nepal.

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      If that happened, it would light the fire even hotter. They need him convicted, not assassinated.

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        Yep. Also people liked JFK. They don’t like insurance CEO. So you can sell the idea that jack ruby was a good guy.

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    Why would the 1% be nervous?

    It’s not like the Americans will actually do anything. At most there will be some light trolling, some graffiti and maybe a twitter hashtag. Tjen everyone will pat themselves on the back and feel slightly superior before returning to their slave jobs, without healthcare

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      Are you familiar with the term Stochastic Terrorism? The upshot is that enough public support may encourage individuals to take action against high-profile targets.

      Imagine, for a secone, that you’re one of those 1%. According to the census, there are about 340 million people in the US. If just 50% of them hate you, that’s 170 million. If 99.9% of them do nothing, that still leaves 170 thousand willing to act. Statistically, you’d have one potential killer every two thousand people. Sure, the actual figure might be much lower. Do you know for sure? How would you estimate that?

      Let’s run with that statistic for now. How many people do you interact with or pass by daily? Weekly? Monthly? How many of those potential 170k might intentionally seek you out? The more wealthy or prominent you are, the greater of a target you become, but it may also depend on personal wrongs, leaving a lot of uncertainty and hard to predict variables. How would you know whether there’s a target on your back? Or multiple?

      If you thought you were invincible, that deterrence by law enforcement and public distaste for violence would prevent any such events, that illusion has been shattered now. All it takes is one slip-up of security, one person with nothing to lose and the right luck.

      Would you feel safe?

      Until recently, we all thought nothing would happen. Now something has happened. I think at this point it’s impossible to predict whether that will inspire copycats, whether the public approval may encourage more disruptice mass action or whether it will actually go back to complacency and stay an isolated incident. That unpredictability should give them pause.