The original post by @[email protected] was a woman wearing a shirt that says “Italians do it better”. Someone asked what they do, and drag explained the joke as best as drag understood the intention, though drag disagrees that Luigi killed that CEO. It’s not a call for violence, it’s an explanation of a joke. Other people interpreted the joke the same way.

Less than an hour later, Flying Squid banned drag for that explanation, and for saying Luigi is not guilty. According to Flying Squid, referencing the CEO shooter case and saying Luigi didn’t do it is a call for violence. Expressing support for Luigi Mangione is a bannable offense on LemmyShitpost.

EDIT: The Picard Maneuver responded to drag’s appeal and reversed the ban. Drag will be deleting this post as it is no longer relevant to the current state of affairs on Lemmy Shitpost.

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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    29 days ago

    Yeah, the ban reason looks like it was more of a final straw thing than specifically about that one comment.

    I don’t mind drag much, as long as I remember not to engage about some things. But they stir shit often enough I can imagine a mod just hitting a limit.

    Fwiw though, eat the fucking rich doesn’t work as well when they’re running away, so you kinda gotta bring them down first ;)

    • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nzOPEnglish
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      29 days ago

      Oh, well we have had some conflict in the past. You see, his daughter wants to use she/they pronouns, but he won’t let her. If anyone refers to her with a ‘they’ or ‘them’ pronoun, he gets really mad at them. That’s what drag did, and he was furious.

      • Kaity@leminal.spaceEnglish
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        29 days ago

        Oh that’s crummy, I thought FlyingSquid was better than that.

        Edit: I guess post is locked or deleted so I can’t reply to clarifying comments- here’s my reply:

        It’s obvious to me now that drag is problematic. But I am confused why if someone uses she/they or he/they, it isn’t okay to use they. Because that person has indicated it as a preference?

        I do know that some people use they/them as intentional self-othering if they aren’t feeling well about their transition, but we can’t know that for every person. I personally, if I see a/b pronoun preferences, assume and use a as the primary preferred pronoun, and b as a secondary, assuming they do want to go by that pronoun sometimes but not all the times.

        So yeah, I am still a tad confused how using they from she/they preference is perceived as misgendering when it seems to clearly not be. There must be missing context.

          • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nzOPEnglish
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            29 days ago

            Here’s Squid saying his daughter uses she/they:

            And here he is talking about banning drag for using a ‘they’ pronoun to refer to his daughter and making a point of using ‘her’ in italics instead:

            He seems to be convinced he’s acting in her best interests by not letting anyone call her ‘they’. He says using her preferred pronouns is misgendering. It’s some kind of twisted backwards version of trans rhetoric where you ignore what children want to be called and act like that’s respect.