The original post by @[email protected] was a woman wearing a shirt that says “Italians do it better”. Someone asked what they do, and drag explained the joke as best as drag understood the intention, though drag disagrees that Luigi killed that CEO. It’s not a call for violence, it’s an explanation of a joke. Other people interpreted the joke the same way.

Less than an hour later, Flying Squid banned drag for that explanation, and for saying Luigi is not guilty. According to Flying Squid, referencing the CEO shooter case and saying Luigi didn’t do it is a call for violence. Expressing support for Luigi Mangione is a bannable offense on LemmyShitpost.

EDIT: The Picard Maneuver responded to drag’s appeal and reversed the ban. Drag will be deleting this post as it is no longer relevant to the current state of affairs on Lemmy Shitpost.

  • Rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world
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    29 days ago

    I think you’re being a little bit facetious; surely you can see that while yes, you technically answered the question, you didn’t phrase it in the form of an explanation. I’m not pearl-clutching and accusing you of condoning the murder, but that response was pretty obviously toeing the line at best.

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      It wasn’t obvious to drag. Maybe that’s because drag has autism, and needs to expend conscious effort to think of ways drag can be misinterpreted. Drag would edit it for clarity if drag could, but bans prevent editing comments.

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          Oh, no, you’re misunderstanding how drag feels. Drag doesn’t feel like a victim at all. In fact, drag feels quite fortunate not to be the kind of person who gets mad at out of context quotes. It’s kind of life-affirming, to be the sort of person who struggles to think that way.

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            Dude, give it a rest. You’re entire third person, trolling, abusive comments, and always playing the autism and “i dont understand” card is old and tired.

            Im honestly surprised you haven’t been banned from every server yet like your old “dronerights” accounts were last year.

            You say you’re not playing the victum, yet here we are in a topic you created to whine.

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              29 days ago

              You’re welcome to think every nonbinary person is the same individual if you like. But drag’s intention with this post was to warn others that LemmyShitpost isn’t a safe space. Not everything in the world is about drag, silly.

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    Joking or alluding to it is seemingly fine. Just don’t straight up say “kill billionaires” like Drag, I guess. Because plenty of others, including myself, have been making jokes with the same sentiment and we’re not banned nor have had our comments removed.

    With the way Drag usually talks in 3rd person, I kinda feel like it’s just an excuse to ban the dude because someone finds him annoying. This is also the first time I am seeing FlyingSquid being called out for banning someone, and it actually isn’t just someone who said some bigoted shit and got mad at facing consequences.

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      Yeah, the ban reason looks like it was more of a final straw thing than specifically about that one comment.

      I don’t mind drag much, as long as I remember not to engage about some things. But they stir shit often enough I can imagine a mod just hitting a limit.

      Fwiw though, eat the fucking rich doesn’t work as well when they’re running away, so you kinda gotta bring them down first ;)

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        Oh, well we have had some conflict in the past. You see, his daughter wants to use she/they pronouns, but he won’t let her. If anyone refers to her with a ‘they’ or ‘them’ pronoun, he gets really mad at them. That’s what drag did, and he was furious.

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          Oh that’s crummy, I thought FlyingSquid was better than that.

          Edit: I guess post is locked or deleted so I can’t reply to clarifying comments- here’s my reply:

          It’s obvious to me now that drag is problematic. But I am confused why if someone uses she/they or he/they, it isn’t okay to use they. Because that person has indicated it as a preference?

          I do know that some people use they/them as intentional self-othering if they aren’t feeling well about their transition, but we can’t know that for every person. I personally, if I see a/b pronoun preferences, assume and use a as the primary preferred pronoun, and b as a secondary, assuming they do want to go by that pronoun sometimes but not all the times.

          So yeah, I am still a tad confused how using they from she/they preference is perceived as misgendering when it seems to clearly not be. There must be missing context.

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              Here’s Squid saying his daughter uses she/they:

              And here he is talking about banning drag for using a ‘they’ pronoun to refer to his daughter and making a point of using ‘her’ in italics instead:

              He seems to be convinced he’s acting in her best interests by not letting anyone call her ‘they’. He says using her preferred pronouns is misgendering. It’s some kind of twisted backwards version of trans rhetoric where you ignore what children want to be called and act like that’s respect.

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      Hey there. What’s with that “dude” and “him” in your comment? My rider’s a dragon rider, not a dude.

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      29 days ago

      Drag was answering a question. If you put the question and the answer together, you get “Italians kill billionaires better”. Drag’s reply wasn’t a full sentence. It was a statement, not an imperative.

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    29 days ago

    PTB.

    If ending a joke is promoting violence, where are the bans of the people defending Harris, Biden or the Democrat party, for promoting a violent genoocide ?