I really hope that Luigi does get acquitted. I mean if it is factual that he didn’t do it and the real killer is out there… well then, I guess Luigi still got lots of fame, but at the same time we will also be happy that the real guy is not only free, but the mystery of who he is will make him cooler.
This is actually the beginning of the plot to Sonic Adventure 2. We should be seeing Luigi snowboarding down the streets of San Francisco any day now.
Oh great, now I have to ask my 9 year old sonic fan to put this into context. Kid beat the game on computer despite the crazy control setup.
Sonic gets framed for Shadow’s crime and escapes authorities snowboarding down an inclined street
While the fuckin banger that is “Escape from the City” plays in the background
yeah no . sorry but the guy was not as well prepared as it seems , he left a lot of tracks and made a lot of mistakes .
So you think he kept a backpack full of all the exact items involved and was just hanging around 3 days later in a McDonald’s by mistake?
So like, he slept, showered, did all the usual daily things and just kept carrying around the incriminating evidence out in public? Seems weird to me. I’d assume most people would go bury the gun and clothes or something, not go carrying it all around.
Am I missing something or is this still just people being stupid about photos?
It’s not really the photos. For me, it’s that it’s really unusual for him to have had all the evidence on hand. Like the ID, gun, silencer, notes, and a motive on hand, just chilling in McDonalds. He also gave away probable cause to search him by presenting the ID which he should have known was fake. Considering he took concealing steps like using a ghost gun, ditching his backpack, and making a relatively clean getaway, it’s pretty odd.
Still it’s obviously possible that he wanted to be caught or was exhausted… or just dumb enough to not think of that.
It IS a big thing that the evidence hasn’t been presented officially yet. There’s a lot of media talk implying that he’s the guy but trial by media is not a verdict
Succinct analysis plus the desire of the state to pin this to anyone really to please the parasite class.
Maybe it’s a staged event. The latest consensus-splitter / distraction.
Look how it has split us. Reddit deleting posts. Unironic discussion of guillotines.
This event has brought a lot more class consciousness to the masses than anything else imo.
There’s a part of me hoping dudes going along with it to aid in the others escape, solidarity style, and he’s got some iron clad alibi his lawyer plans to deliver in the courtroom that means they can’t convict him.
Luigi is player 2.
Plot twist: this was a group act all along. The murderer flees the scene. Once the image gets released, a second actor shows up at a McDonald’s, a public space. Gets reported to authorities by a third actor, who does actually work at McD’s. They waste the authorities’ time, and the second actor, having commited no crimes, proves his innocence. The actual murderer, in the meantime, disappears for real, benefiting of the time wasted by the authorities. Second actor represents something, and gets some cool pics getting “arrested”
Idk, the idea just came to mind seeing the comment above
Also McD actor gets a small reward that takes care of some expenses for the group
The feds, and state of New York, already said that the informant wasn’t going to get a dime of the posted reward.
The only class solidarity that we have seen systemically is for the owners.
I knew this was how it would go down. I’m guessing they’re saying since they didn’t go through crimestoppers they can’t get it?
I love it. Snitch gets their pretend cash snatched. Makes it less likely for people to snitch. And that fucker is going to be mad about it every day for the rest of their life.
the second actor, having commited no crimes, proves his innocence.
Here’s the flaw in your plan: This doesn’t actually work in the US.
Though the simple act of planting evidence on the suspect. No alibi beats a confession note and an untraceable gun
if luigi hypothetically did participate in this plan, wouldn’t that itself be a crime (accessory to murder)? so they could still get him for something if they found out about the plan, but probably for less than if he did actually kill someone. i’m not a lawyer though so i don’t really know how this stuff works or if it would even be feasible to prosecute him for any of those things (if he did them)
Yeah I think they could still charge anyone who was in on the plan with conspiracy to commit murder whether they pulled the trigger or not.
Edit: at minimum
They’d have to prove there was a plan.
It really is an absolutely bizaare story. Why would he walk around with the murder weapon like that?
It looks like you couldn’t decide on “bizarre” or “bazaar” so you split the difference. Bazaar is a market place, bizarre is weird. Just fyi, not trying to be a dick about it happy holidays love you
Well that added fuck all to conversation.
See, I think one of three scenarios might have happened:
- Luigi didn’t do it. He was framed and set up because out of the hundreds of prank tips, this guy looked “close enough.”
- Luigi did it, but the evidence was made up to make the case solid and the police look competent. Luigi wasn’t stupid, but he’s boned anyway.
- Luigi did it, and he really was that stupid.
As a writer, one of the aggravating tropes we have to follow is, “make the story believable,” when reality sometimes doesn’t align with “a good story.” Some criminals are really that stupid, and some armchair theory, based on decades of movies, books, and TV shows, you expect “hey, this is what they SHOULD have done is.” And they didn’t. It’s like when a chessmaster has to watch complete amateurs play chess. “Obvious strategies” are ignored, and basically both players are just not thinking past their last move.
Some criminals are really that stupid,
A lot of criminals are remarkably stupid. It’s fun to imagine criminal masterminds making up a lot of their plans with meticulous planning only to be foiled by the heroes. But in real life most crooks are fairly dumb. Even intelligent people who do crimes can make mistakes that come off as remarkably stupid to people learning about them.
I watched a lot of episode of Forensics Files and other shows that document cases that were solved by slim margins. Some criminals on the show really did almost get away with it if it wasn`t for one tiny mistake. In other cases, however, they got caught ultimately because they left behind something that absolutely would have lead to their capture.
Like in one case there was a mugger who killed a college girl while she walking home. The area she walked through was wooded and dark. The episode documents how DNA was used after it had advanced sufficiently to get him and they had to track him down to get a good sample. But there is something absolutely critical that the show didn’t point out: He got on police radar because he dropped a bag of his that had a medicine bottle with his name on it. If he just picked up his bag the police would have had nothing to go by at all.
The other problem is that planning a murder like the one for Brian Thompson and getting away with it is hard as balls. Other than the fact that there are cameras everywhere. The guy needed to be at the right place and the right time and be there for only a minimal amount of time (to not draw undue attention) and he also had to be sure that there weren’t that many police around so police response times would be extended. I think he did it at the time because he also knew that the police change shifts so there are fewer beat cops around.
Also the silencer obviously doesn’t make the gun 100% quiet, but it was done to make it quiet enough to not set off the shotspotter towers. Those towers are more and more common in many cities so that when a criminal fires a gun, they can quickly triangulate where the shot was fired from. This would give away his location very quickly and minimize police response time.
It is meticulously planned. But there could be any number of things that could have gone wrong. The gun could have simply not fired at all. There could have been a few cops working extra hours nearby and ran after him quickly. Someone could have jumped at him to stop him right away. Lots and lots of factors go into it.
Even some people said that why was he using a hostel (which has security cameras and other witnesses) when he could have rented an AirBnB apartment. Some places rent rooms and apartments for people and those people never actually meet the host, meaning there is no one who would see you.
As for how to pay for them… the guy could have used a prepaid cash card, one bought and charged with cash. It cannot be traced back to you easily, if at all.
Fourth option, he’s taking the fall for a love interest.
Don’t get me wrong. After all of this high drama, it would be extremely funny if Luigi Mangione can prove he was in Rochester on the day of the shooting.
I think that’s exactly where it’s going. Get convicted, real killer confesses and the state can’t pursue a crime they’ve convicted someone for.
Why not? The double jeopardy clause is about prosecuting a single person twice; it says nothing about prosecuting a second person for the same crime. Heck, convicting a second person wouldn’t even automatically invalidate the first conviction. (SCOTUS has ruled that innocence is not a sufficient reason to overturn a conviction.)
Remember, we have a judicial system. Calling it a “justice system” is inaccurate.
innocence is not a sufficient reason to overturn a conviction
WHAT
Luigi is probably working for them. His job is to do all the “right” things, to further the preferred narrative and such. He’s a paid actor.
The real infidel will disappear quietly.
