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    This just in: Actor does promotional stunt to promote their movie, tune in next time to hear about how a certainpolitician has shockingly told people to vote for them

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      Jack Black earned enough respect from me for Tenacious D and everything else he has done, to withstand doing some family movies. If he wasn’t as big influence on your life I can understand not seeing it that way though.

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        He threw his best friend Kyle Gass under the bus. Jack Black sucks

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        He’s a zionist. It sucks he hid being a nazi like that for so long, and I can understand wanting to mourn, but, he’s not someone anyone should still idolize or respect.

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          In the real world people are nuanced and complex

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            Yeah, Hitler was a vegan, genuinely loved dogs, and was once in love with painting.

            Much nuance. Many complex. Totally excuses all the other stuff.

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                I picked a famous complex and nuances nazi, so it seemed apt.

                If jack ‘those subhuman palis need to just shut up and die’ black wanted to be compared to someone less nazi like maybe he should be a nazi.

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                  You know he doesn’t think that right? I can guratnee it’s a similar situation to why the US govt refused to recognize Taiwan as a country. There are larger forces at play.

                  Does that completely remove guilt from Jack Black? Absolutely not, however it’s an extreme stretch for you to assume his thoughts AND compare him to Hitler for simply agreeing to the (wrong) mainstream (and highly likely forced upon him from contracts and such) view on the situation.

                  See nuance and stop blindly labeling people nazis, you’re devaluing the word. Be specific in your critiques of what they’ve done/said instead.

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          He’s a zionist. It sucks he hid being a nazi like that for so long

          What 24/7 algorithmic social media does to a generation.

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            I’m sorry the cool stoner dude that never mentally aged past 13 turned out to be a genocidal nazi. It truly is a loss to all humanity.

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          Jack is and will remain to be one of my idols. Like I said, his music and comedy meant a lot to me and others in my generation, and helped make us the people we are today. He was a voice of joy and rebellion, not some nazi. I know he is a person with a good heart.

          I’d have to see something pretty damning to change that. A lot more than making uncool movies these days, or failing some purity test on his political opinions. I haven’t seen whatever supposed zionist stuff he has expressed, but if it boils down to him saying he supports Israel, i would take that to mean he’s just saying what he thinks he should and doesn’t have an understanding of the reality of the Palestinian genocide, like most people in America.

          If you want your idols to be perfect, then don’t have any, because all people are flawed.

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            or failing some purity test on his political opinions

            How about cancelling a tour and disappointing all the fans who had bought tickets to that tour, because he disagrees with a joke that one of his fellow bandmates made because of its political content? Because he cares more about his own personal brand image and tickets to his latest children’s movie than he does about his and bandmates and his biggest supporters. I think that’s a bit more than “failing some purity test”.

            I know he is a person with a good heart

            No, you don’t. You can’t. His detractors can’t claim to know he has an evil heart, either. None of you know him personally, and it’s a kinda gross degree of parasociality to think you do.

            (fwiw, I personally don’t hold what I’ve seen of his pro-Israel comments against him too much. I think he’s wrong, but I’m more inclined to agree with you that he doesn’t have an understanding of it, especially since the comment I saw him make was in the immediate aftermath of the October attacks in 2023. If he’s made pro-Israel comments since about January 2024, that starts becoming inexcusable in my eyes.)

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              Like I said earlier, he’s responsible for the safety of the fans at their shows who were suddenly at risk of harm from crazy MAGAs after Kyle endorsed killing Trump on stage. We can’t just assume he was only thinking about his movie money. Maybe he was maybe he wasn’t, maybe made the wrong call, doesn’t make him a monster.

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                If it was that, he should have said it was that. Instead, he used the opportunity to chastise his bandmate for the comments he made and made it very clear he was distancing himself from Gass.

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    In other news, Barbara Streisand has asked people to please stop sharing photographs of her house…

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    I’m waiting for a theater to lean into it. Make it out like a Rocky Horror show, sell pre-assembled bags that have all your tossables, maybe some lines printed out as guides for when to shout, a little plastic lump to take home for the kids.