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This isn’t philosophy anymore, it’s just game theory
it’s interdisciplinary.
por qué no los dos
Not even. Game Theory is supposed to take a lot of stuff into account. Boiling it down to this is insulting and a way to paint situations like proxy wars as immoral.
holy prisoner dilemma!
For some people, this is a problem. For others, this is a solution.
Jokes on you, No loved ones, so who cares if you pull the lever or not, go have a frothy instead.
Do nothing that way you don’t get to jail for murder. All the pressure goes to the other guy. Sue the railway company, guy who pulled the lever and the creator. Another is find a way not to reach to that point.
Also, it’s too late to pull the lever, you’ll just provoke a crush.
They’ve already both chosen not to pull the lever at this point. Guess they didn’t want to make a wider picture.
I feel like you’re not internalizing that this is a thought experiment.
This is the dumbest thought experiment I’ve ever seen.
I envy you then
Or so you think
The outcome from both levers pulled is so steep that it really makes no sense to pull the lever
That’s why they won’t pull the lever, and that’s why you should.
Not really. This would all happen so fast and be emotionally, not logically, driven.
They’ll be thinking the same thing tho and if there is a greater than 20% chance of them pulling the lever it’d be worse in terms of losing family members than not pulling at all.
But in terms of overall death, not pulling the lever is 1 or 4, and pulling the lever is 4 or 13
And where are their arms and legs?
amputee representation. don’t make it weird.
They didn’t keep them inside the car at all times.
Questions: why doesn’t the person at the switch run and get the person off the tracks? And the people on the trolley hop off or try to the sslow the trolley?
I think this exposes the sadism of philosophy the past few hundred years.
Often, it’s been some rich idle folks making up murderous fantasies in their heads while looking down at my ancestors . “Oh, you don’t know page 273 of Aristotle’s rejoinder? Haha, you must be too poor”.
They are tied to their chair with the only thing they can do being flipping the lever. It is the prisoner’s trolley problem
something something about conservation of momentum, them jumping off speeds up the trolley
Not if they jump from the front of the trolley
I would tie a really really long string to the lever and attach the string to a large bird and then scare it into flying away. Then I would eat some delicious Heinz Baked Beans
Nuke it from orbit.
👍 It’s the only way to be sure
Give the loved ones guns
You pull the lever, then pew pew pew the other person near the lever.
Boom.
Did I solve it?
Where’s my prize?
Wait a minute, gotta shoot everyone else related too. Don’t want to face any revenge.
Automatic Weaponry goes brrrr
No witnesses
Okay I saved 1 of my loved ones.
Bingo?
Now theres only one color of people.
Wait am I a racist?
If these are tracks in the US then I just understaff the engineers and maintenance teams and the train derails before I have to make a decision, checkmate.
If these tracks are in the US, so I am. So I shoot the other guy with the gun(s) I usually carry around when I go out and then pull the lever.
Throw the trolley off the side of the ferry.
and here. we. go
I think the premise falls apart on the assumption that I consider pulling the lever as best case.
Which relative is on the track and which in the trolley?
It says loved ones I’m afraid, can’t sacrifice one in prison I’m afraid.
Your hot cousin is on the track. What would you do?
Don’t pull the lever, then there’s three thirds of hot cousin to go around regardless of the other person’s decision. Philosophy is easy.
Easy there Solomon
cut the trolley in half, give one half to each of the thirds of the hot cousin
Split the track in half, and ramp up one side, causing the trolley to drive on two wheels, effectively only slicing the legs off of your loved ones.
