I wonder what thing TrumpEtAL is going to do to require people to create X accounts.
And then what thing that TrumpEtAL will do to make it so that his enemies can’t sign up and hence be in trouble with TrumpEtAL.
IRS integration requiring efiling through xitter.
OMG just no.
Guess how the suckers that want to work with Elon and Vivek have to submit resumes?
don’t look guys! I totally did not piss my pants!
– Elon Musk
So reading all the comments here:
X is far Right, conservatives - bad.
Lemmy is far Left, liberal - good.
You both sound as bad as each other.
You just become someone good when interacting with the good people 😉
“So reading all the comments here:”
Already told on yourself - We all know you can’t read.
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’
— Isaac Asimov
Have your fun here on the internet today, but just remember this “high” when your grandkids tell you you’re not invited to Christmas one day. The people around you see the garbage you are in full color. They see the world you didn’t care to save on their behalf. Enjoy that fucking loneliness and crawl to your forums for the only illusion of validation you’ll have left at that point, from a fucking bot.
Chud.
No no you see once in Lemmy you can engage in the communist left vs liberal center-left battles. It’s turtles all the way down.
The horseshoe theory holds true in many cases. Far ends of the spectrum have more in common with eachother than they do with the people on the middle. Antisemitism is a good example of something you find in both extremes. Calls for violence is another example.
False premise… not wanting Palestinian babies to be slaughtered en masse is not anti-Semitism. Fuck that.
There isn’t a far right and “far left” equivalency - one side are fascists and the other are anti fascists. Opposition of objective evil is NOT an extreme, it’s a baseline position.
Quiet propaganda, like this comment, did a lot to bring our broken society to this point.
Antisemitism is a good example of something you find in both extremes. Calls for violence is another example.
Israel is doing genocide but the Jews are real victims of US political discourse
I think bombing civilians is bad and going after people because of their religion is also bad. You don’t actually need to choose either or.
every time holocaust and jews are brought up in the modern context, you are making that choice.
Id assume they meant residents of the Jewish state who are on the side of the Jewish states government, not all Jews worldwide…but I’m just giving benefit of the doubt. Similarly I assume people saying Americans chose this or Americans support genocide mean the 51% who do.
the 51% who do
Nah, it’s more like <1%. The average citizen does have a say in who our representatives are, but we don’t get to decide what choices they make. When you vote for someone, you don’t necessarily agree with everything they do, you just think the country would go in a better direction with them vs their opponents.
For example, Biden didn’t meaningfully push back on Israel, and I doubt Trump would do anything differently. So if you are super passionate about the Israel-Gaza war, you can’t vote for either, but that means throwing your vote away with a third party candidate, which has other caveats (i.e. if you have a preference on issues other than Israel-Gaza, voting third party reduces that voice). I voted third party this past election because I knew my state would vote overwhelmingly for one of the candidates (and it did, like clockwork), so my vote had more value as a protest against the terrible candidates we had instead of throwing it to either the one that would win or the runner-up.
In a democracy, things really aren’t that binary. Just because a candidate won 51% of the vote or whatever doesn’t mean 51% of the populace agrees with their policies, they just think they’ll do a better job than the main alternative. In this case, I think it largely came down to the economy, and people thought Trump would do better than Harris on that. I personally think the Presidential Puzzle (video by Ben Felix about it here) is more convincing than an actual shift in national agreement with Trump.
You know the Palestinians, who are currently being genocided with American weapons and money, are semites right?
How does this relate to what I said?
Seems like you were using antisemitism as shorthand for antizionism
I’m talking about the hatred of jews.
Is holding israel accountable for its genocide “hatred of Jews”?
I haven’t said a world about Israel.
How your comment reads to the rest of us:
"Wrong reason people don’t like twitter - bad
Wrong reason people like lemmy - good
You both sound the same to me"
If we’re being honest, they’re both echo chambers, but one of decidedly more malevolent than the other.
Lemmy is definitely not an echo chamber. As a leftist there’s a ton of liberal simp vooooooote blue no matter who bullshit, followed by blaming everyone but their shitty ass candidate and even shittier ass party for the loss.
The right wing in contrast is in unison lining up to fellate trumps little mushroom.
What a dipshit
Nazi, who inherited his generational fortune through slave labor, makes people uncomfortable. They leave. Nazi lies about being weird and/or a Nazi.
Insists being a Nazi should not influence anything and demands people and ad money returns.
How long until he sues users to return like he is with advertisers?
Probably in 2025 when he moves all government communication to X because “it’s more efficient”.
And we thought ID.me was bad…
Release the X files, Elon.
I used to like that show :(
At first, the air of mystery suggested hidden depths, but increasing exposure revealed that it was all just woven from thin air and would routinely come out with increasingly absurd stories that contradicted previous statements.
Also, the X-Files.
I want to believe.
We don’t talk about the fox reboot seasons. That didn’t happen
Wait are you talking about the reboot they did in like 2015ish? The were-monster episode and the Mandela effect guy were like the funniest shit ever.
I literally fell out of my chair onto my living room floor laughing at that shit. If you were a fan of the original show I must recommend at least watching those two episodes.
Now do this to Tesla. Make owning a Tesla make you a pariah.
Decent first step with the Cybertruck. Though he botched it and instead of making owners pariahs, they turn owners into clowns and laceration patients.
I already peg Tesla drivers next to Altimas and Ram 2500s, just different energy
Tesla is for the people who don’t want to drive a car, and their driving aptitude is frequently on full display
Altimas and Ram needs no further explanation, you already know
I already peg Tesla drivers
O rly?
😇
Where I live there’s not many teslas.
But I saw one the other day and it was squeaking like a cheap plastic toy.
I wasn’t going to buy one. But seeing such bad quality construction even noticable by afar, reaffirmed my choice.
There are a ton around me. Every time I pass one I pay close attention to the body. Many times, it looks to me like the body panels just don’t line up. They kind of look like shit TBH.
There’s a guy in Hawaii selling “I bought this before I knew Elon was crazy” bumper stickers for $10, and he’s already sold over 10,000 this year.
Good, I’m glad for him. With the upcoming tariffs/trade war coming our way, I can only imagine how much higher the cost of living in Hawaii is about to get.
Tesla is already a rolling pile of shit. How much more punishment do you want their owners to have?
Being a Tesla owner is brutal because neither the left nor the right respect you.
Gotta get one of the “I bought this before we knew Elon was an asshole” bumper stickers.
Obviously only works on a car that came out before we knew Elon was an asshole
It already does.
Sorry to people that haven’t sold theirs yet.
They haven’t even been out a year. Their user agreement stipulates they can’t resell them yet
I’m fairly certain there are teslas older than a year.
Oh my mistake, I thought this was the comment thread mentioning the truck. Yeah, I’m with you
Good point about the insane “user agreement” though
Over a million people joined Bluesky after the election and seem to be using it. Also a lot of news & media companies have moved over too. So I would assume that at least that many users have disappeared from X or their activity has diminished. On top of that all the bots have gone home now the election is over so the amount of activity must have suffered. And Bluesky is basically old Twitter so people are settling into it and liking it.
I would advise anyone who still using X to give it a try. And if they want to use X for whatever reason - uninstall the app, install Control Panel for Twitter into their mobile browser and browse that for a relatively bullshit free experience - no ads, no algorithmic lists, just what you subscribe to.
I’m loving it so far!!
Should I try Bluesky even if I barely have used Xitter recently?
Sure. There’s not a lot of “bulk content” trash farms yet so it feels more real than even twitter did before the enXhittification.
If you don’t use Twitter then I don’t see any reason to try Bluesky since it could basically be described as classic Twitter. But if you liked Twitter until it because a cesspit of far right shitheads, crypto bros, bots, and ads then give Bluesky a go.
No, no, I think you don’t understand. /lh
What I meant by that is that I don’t use it so often like most people do (2 hours a day or so), I mean like, opening once or twice every 1 or 2 weeks.
kek
topkek, even
X is done.
It served its purpose.
Let that sink in.
This was such a compensating thing. Tried to back out of the deal, wasn’t allowed to, then made this dumbass dad joke. “I meant to do that” vibes, fucking pathetic.
I hope so, although it might serve as an easy way for companies to bribe the first lady Musk for favours with Trump
Might as well make “Biggest Donor” a cabinet position at this point
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Oh I hope this is true.
In the future I hope they do studies on what percentage of nazi content is necessary to destabilize a platform and get an established base of regular people and companies to flee.
To hear it told on Bluesky, it’s the better blocking tools and the culture of “we don’t have to put up with these assholes.”
shrug
I’ve been off Twitter for years and even before that I probably posted less than a half-dozen times per year. I mostly prefer subject-based social media (here) over identity-based, but I’m looking to surround myself with people who talk about something other than politics because the last Trump presidency I just couldn’t handle the constant tide of horrors.
I just need somewhere to escape all that and if not, I’m going to be in a really mentally unhealthy place for the next four years.
subject-based social media (here) over identity-based
There’s a good way to talk about it!
How else can we describe Lemmy? I’ll call it a “social news site“ but meh
I like subject vs identity because I enjoy discussing issues and I enjoy seeing familiar people in the discussions, but I don’t like being followed and following is hard for me. I might love your thoughts on Star Wars but you also post a lot of cat pictures which I’m neutral about and sports which I don’t like.
So if I follow you and see those three subjects, two posts I have to cognitively tune out. If I follow a Star Wars board, I get your thoughts and potentially two other people’s thoughts in those same three posts.
I like that. On Bluesky (or TwX/Mastodon) I have to find people who mostly post about things I want to see. It’s hard and it’s not conducive to massive follow/follower counts which is normally the measure of success.
I also find myself feeling constrained to only post things my followers are interested in, because as an individual I’m just not that fascinating. So I post less and less as my follower count goes up.
Because of all that, subject vs identity is the most natural way to divide up social media to me. I’d be happy to brainstorm other ways, though.
X never was. Twitter is dead though
Yep. Fortunately for Elon (and, you know, fascism) he doesn’t need it any more. For Elon, it is already ‘Mission Accomplished’. The richest, most thin-skinned losers on Earth already control the biggest economy and the biggest military. What more could that shitstain hope to get out of Twitter?
Well now he’s calling for a new election in the UK (presumably to put the right wing bac in) so looks like he’s not happy with just proxy ruling America.
And he’s dancing around Ukraine and Putin. This guy is so entitled.
Haha right you are. It is in his nature, I suppose, to grasp and grasp after already being the richest person in history. In a better world, we would put people like Musk in a nice, humane institution.
Or a nice, sharp guillotine
He’s not the richest in history. Modern history, sure if you count excluding inflation. But when people like Mansa Musa existed Musk has quite a ways to go. Hell even Carnegie’s wealth eclipsed Musk if you’re talking purchasing power.
Musk has now surpassed Carnegie. You are right about Mansa Musa (for now), but the gap is closing. According to google today, Musk is at $334B, Carnegie peaked at a modest $309B, and Mansa Musa had about $400B, though there are quibbles about personal wealth vs. kingdom’s treasury. If you want to compare Musk and Musa, I think you could reasonably add the GDP of the US to Musk’s fortune, since he is one of the puppeteers behind Trump. All figures adjusted for inflation, by the way.
Well, you have to remember, he’s an entitled NepoBaby manchild who grew up rich off an emerald mine in Apartheid South Africa, failed upwards into every position he’s ever held after blowing shit tons of money into failing companies, claims he knows more about manufacturing than anyone else despite his products getting recalled almost weekly and openly flaunting safety standards over the color of safety gear, and just overall is a massive dweeb who shills failed crypto scams and political grifts over on the Social Media platform he spent Too Much Money™️ on.
So yeah, of COURSE he thinks he can shadow-run 2 governments at once by funding Fascist takeovers. He’s just that stupid and entitled. And when it all blows up in his face one day, all I will do is laugh.
The fact that Elon Musk has time to shadow run GOVERNMENTS while ALSO being CEO of THREE Companies is PROOF that ceos EARN their Billions of Dollars with how much Harder they work!
All of the numbers are fake anyway. You can just sit there and f5 the page to get views on your own tweet lmao
is this true Captain?
Yup just tried it again. Also basically anything counts as a view, scroll by the post, embedded tweet, scraper scraping the tweet. Almost every time the page is viewed by anyone or anything will bump the number even if it’s repeated visit from the same viewer withing short time frame.
I guess it’s kinda nice that it’s simply transparent like that for admins but that’s not what users expect - it’s a useless metric and very easy to inflate.
I’m tempted to fire up a dozen android emulators with a refresh loop to see how far this can be pushed but I really don’t want to have that shit platform on my mind longer than I have to tbh.
Elon’s lost the plot. It’s a joy to watch.
Implying he ever had it
That’s part of the joy, he bought the plot and still managed to lose the plot so quickly it’s easy to argue he never had it to begin with.
He paid billions to play himself.
He paid billions (largely of other people’s money) to influence the US election and world politics. He succeeded. He won.
Not to mention his I’m sure his tax cuts and deregulations will offset loses for buying X. Throw in gutting NASA, he opens more contracts for his companies. He will end up making money for sure.
He could do absolutely nothing but sit on the beach for the rest of his life and he’d be making more money off interest than we make in a lifetime
Assuming he lives to 88. And gets only 5% interest on his current money. Interest puts him over 1 trillion easy (around 1.8t) So assuming there are 450,000 users on Lemmy and we all make 3,000,000 dollars in our total lives… Yeah he will make about 1.5 times what me all make.
Sidenote: average stock market growth over 10 years has been around 11% I saw. So that would put his worth around 8.9 trillion in 35 years of just sitting on investments.
Great number choice haha. The fascists love the number 88!
It really goes to show how fucking nuts these billionaires are. They could fucking relax for the rest of their lives in luxury but that’s not enough for them.
Money is just a symbol for power. There’s never enough for these ghouls.
I disagree that him owning Twitter causes Trump to win. I have not heard any credible source make this claim. This sounds like 4D chess nonsense. He clearly did not want to own Twitter and didn’t know what to do with it either once he did and still had no clue how to use it.
Whatever responsibility can be placed on Twitter it would be them deplatforming him, allowing voters to forget how insane he is. This occurred prior to his purchase.
Rather than attempting to lay the blame for trumps second election on platforms, we need to come to terms with accepting that this is the direction that the majority of American’s wanted. This includes those who did not vote, since their apathy allowed Trump to win.
A plurality of Americans are very very dumb. The entire world knows this. We pretend they just don’t get us, know us, etc but we cannot ignore the reality exposed by these election outcomes.
Oh I don’t think it was a major reason. He may have regretted it at first but that may have been bullshit. Now he’s one of the most powerful people in the world, politically, until Trump turns on him.
I don’t think it can be proven, just like bezos owning the Washington post can’t be proven to sway things.
A bunch of billionaires owning consolidated media, what could go wrong?!
Trust me. Whether we can prove it or not, the whole purpose of buying Twitter was to kneecap the “left” in organizing (sorry but most are actually liberals, especially the PMC echo chamber that was Twitter and is now becoming Bluesky), push nazi content, and sway the election. Supposedly he’s going after the UK election too but I’ll be honest I haven’t been paying attention to that. A whole bunch of major democracies had elections this year. He swayed the most important one.
No he hasn’t, shitter served its purpose, to sway an election.
That’s an expensive way to sway an election. If that’s the case, critical thinking abilities of the average Xitter user is pretty fucking low. Breaking News: Shepherd Herds Sheep.
Wasn’t adding engagement numbers to each tweet one of the first things he added? I remember thinking “who the fuck wants to see that?” But I guess to people like him that was important at the time? Huh.
Drumpf is obsessed with rally size, skuM is obsessed with twitter engagement. Rotten tomatoh, decomposing tomahto.
This just in, lying piece of shit liar lies about something again. 😆
lying piece of shit liar lies
I feel like you’re trying to imply something here…
LOL… is he hiding cause of an exodus, or because of the bot farm he ran for the elections?
