[…] Many users are complaining of hallucinated artists’ stats, songs they’ve never heard appearing in most listened lists, and more. Some users aren’t happy with the way that Spotify Wrapped looked this year, complaining that it was boring, and not as creative as previous years. […]
One of the most common complaints seems to be that Spotify Wrapped has misreported on the stats in claims to represent. Now, while this has happened in previous years, this year it seems to be a whole lot more prevalent — as you can see in this Spotify support thread. It’s filled with users complaining about top artists they’ve never listened to, songs appearing in at the top of their lists that they didn’t even know existed, or a mixture of the two.
Just anecdotally talking with people outside the internet-o-sphere and you’ll quickly find people with iffy Spotify Wrapped statistics. I have friends who listen exclusively to bizarre, underground punk acts, and their Wrappeds were topped by the likes of The Weeknd and Taylor Swift. Even on the Tom’s Guide team, we’ve seen strangeness — our own Millie Fender discovered Swift among her top artists, yet her songs didn’t appear in her top 100.
Just read people’s reactions online, especially in the trending topic on X or even the announcement thread on Reddit. Many are blaming Spotify’s pivot to AI this year for the lack of personality, and some even hold it responsible for their weird Spotify statistics. I have reached out to Spotify for comment, but I am yet to hear a response.
What can we do?
First off, there are other streaming platforms with year-end roundups. Deezer, for example, has unleashed My Deezer Year, and like everything the French streamer does, it’s filled with creativity and personality. That’s a streaming service with better sound quality too. Apple Music has its Replay feature, which similarly takes you through your year. There are options.
If you’re duty-bound to Spotify, then there is a way to really check your most-listened-to artists, songs, and genres — Track your listening with Last.FM, for example, which gives you breakdowns over the course of the year. Whatever happens, I (and many others) are hoping that Spotify Wrapped is a whole lot better next year.
Slow news day? Who gives a literal fuck
This is happening because Spotify laid off half it’s staff and thought it could get away with it.
Not every news story needs to be earth shattering. Some can be about mundane things people enjoy.
I heard that Spotify fired the guy who invented the original Spotify algorithm for everything from wrapped to the discover playlists. I’ll look to see if I can find link and update.
Edit: not sure if is what I read originally https://blog.tunemymusic.com/spotify-wrapped-2024-bad-users-complain/
But I remember the quote
“Everyone noticing that Spotify wrapped is weak this year should remember that Spotify fired the main dude who created the algorithm for them about a year ago (for no reason) and he was also the mastermind between all the genre related data that essentially keeps the place running.
“Enshitification at its finest folks.
What’s so hard about tracking which song has been played how often or even for how long? I can’t imagine how you can fuck this up so badly
Hopefully tidal hires him.
Please don’t give them ideas. They have to fix core issue first - catalogue quality where albums from same named bands are often attributed to wrong ones.
He apparently made both of these sites I found every noise interesting
Well both of those are damn cool, thank you for the links!
Unless Spotify drastically changed their backend it doesn’t make sense why firing one person will make algorithms stop working
They didn’t fire one. They fired 1500. Including most of the Wapped team.
They fired the whole wrapped team and replaced them with some AI nonsense.
I hope Spotify gets all they deserve from that decision.
Even if they fire him, his code still exists and is still legally theirs.
Ya but who’s gonna maintain it? You’d be surprised sometimes how one person’s vision is not so easily grasped by another.
Is there a good way to sync listening history between platforms? That seems to be a big reason why people have a hard time jumping around between platforms
Unfortunately they walled garden themselves pretty universally. I’ve been on Tidal since Spotify fired all those people and have been really enjoying it.
Maybe I’m crazy but I feel like their recommended music is also way better.
Lastfm or listenbrainz
Last.fm is really great for tracking, it’s been around for forever too, no idea why it isn’t more popular.
Why this even calls for generative AI is beyond me. Just post my top 5 artists and top 5 songs. It’s data already available.
Mine said my top artist is Hozier, driving my Goblincore Fantasy Forest phase. I couldn’t name a Hozier song since Take Me To Church, a song that falls into Nickelback territory for me, as in sellouts that get way too much playtime. And no idea how that turned into goblins and fantasy forests.
If you’re a corpo, not integrating generative AI somewhere is seen as a misstep. Shareholders want to know that their money is being used on the cutting edge.
Of course, both groups are clueless as to where generative AI may actually be useful. But ultimately it doesn’t matter.
I think that “take my whiskey meat” song is Hozier. It was popular this year. Maybe you listened to it?
Listen here, dummy, “AI”. Do you understand?
/s
Only the podcast style overview is ai generated. Since the two voice are not from real human
Goblincore Fantasy Forest, definitely a real human genre.
Also had goblincore in my genre. Whatever that is…
IIRC, goblincore is an aesthetic related to the more ugly side of nature - think mushrooms, toads, and snakes. But it’s like a fashion/lifestyle subculture thing like “dark academia,” not a music genre.
Not seeing that Hozier criticism tbh but agree spotify sucks
i listened to the new eminem album once and it said he was my #2 artist. i had a day where i listened to nothing but aphex twin and he wasn’t on the list. busted for sure.
Dropped Spotify after the CEO said artists music weren’t worth anything and raised their annual fee at the same time. Trash company
Mine says my most played artist is Necroticgorebeast. I’ve never even heard of them. And that name is just so Repugnant!
My wife got Taylor Swift and she never listens to her. My first thought was it must be some kind of hallucination because that doesn’t seem like actual data to me. Even an occasional listen shouldn’t make her top artist.
I’ve always just ignored these lists because I play music for my kids’ bedtime so it’s on every night, all night - therefore my data is always skewed towards kids songs.
Also - my original post is a little cheeky. They’re one of my favourite bands and their latest album is called “Repugnant.” LOL
I just want unlimited audiobook listening this 15 hours thing is bullshit. I nearly dropped spotify the second I got that notification out of spite.
But you didn’t drop them and therefore told them via your spending/usage that you’re ok with this 15 hour thing (i don’t use spotify so i don’t know what that is)
After 15 listening hours they let you finish the chapter then block listening until the next month and its a stupid amount of money to top up. Unfortunately I have all my music and podcasts tied to the base service and thats the only thing keeping me there. If I’m paying a monthly fee I feel entitled to unlimited anything.
Which means you’re on Spotify Premium (as am I). Pro tip: Go to your subscription settings and choose the cheaper tier. They’re charging you for that 15 hours, because the cheaper tier only removes the 15 hours of audiobooks.
If you’re that mad at them you should take differeng action. That’s how they learn. What they are learning from your current action is that you are okay with what they’re doing.
It definitely sucked this year. The stats were just boring and not as extensive. One thing I found weird was that after watching my wrapped, I got an alert to check out my stats. But the alert gave me a stat that was interesting, but it wasn’t included in my wrapped. It’s almost like Spotify forgot to include all the stats in the wrapped that it meant to.
Wasnt aware of this issue. Mine was accurate.
Can’t report the same problem. Mine looked very sane for my listening habits.
Same. Last.fm also agreed with what Spotify told me.
Same with listenbrainz though it couldnt capture earlier parts of the year for me.
Switched to Qobuz earlier this year. It has a few issues, but at least it doesn’t have all this absolutely dumb shit that Spotify has. What an improvement.
I like Qobuz and am winding down my Spotify usage. Although it doesn’t have as many automatic playlists as Spotify, Qobuz does better at recommending music that’s unfamiliar and interesting, whereas Spotify seems to have been circling me around the same drain of 10 songs for months. Qobuz sounds noticably better than Spotify too, on my good headphones. And it has so much information about each album, including CD booklets for many of them. In particular for classical music Qobuz gives you the composer, the players, the conductor, the piece and the movement, whereas Spotify doesn’t know what to do.
It just frustrates me how nobody is even close to Spotify Connect nor do they seem to be trying to compete with it. Tidal only half does what I need but I have had a number of major issues with it that are making me go back to Spotify.
That’s your problem? What does it provide that nothing else does?
Primarily, remote control from one PC to another. I’ve got a desktop connected to my speakers but when working from home I want to use my work laptop to control the speakers. Tidal has a version of it that can control media streamer devices, but it is unreliable.
Seamlessly switching between music players. I can have a song playing on my computer, then switch to my phone when I get in the car.
I tried Tidal earlier this year and that was one of the main complaints I had. Their version only works on specific devices that Tidal is partnered with.
You’re talking about your PIT (place in time) of a file, and not the speakers following you around which I’m positive Spotify doesn’t do.
This is a simple feature that every platform offers, even the FOSS options. It’s not a “feature” of Spotify, it’s just something that every streaming platform does anymore.
Correct, I have to manually select which device to play from, but Spotify also remembers the current playlist when switching. Tidal doesn’t, device sessions are separate.
Spotify doesn’t remember the queue though, so shuffled playlists get reshuffled when switching devices. It causes repeats and it’s really annoying. Deezer has the best session management I’ve used. It remembers the whole queue.
And they let you buy the music outright, too!
Recently quit youtube premium due to the price hike finally hitting my country. I’ve been using yt music for my listening.
Since that went away along with yt premium, I dusted off my old music file collection (mix of itunes and bandcamp purchases, cd rips, and soundcloud downloads).
Discovered Qobus looking for places to buy my favorite music to update my collection.
I used to keep my entire collection on my phone, but I opted to start using ytm since I had it and my collection got too big…
But now, I have to say I am blown away with how nice Symfonium+Jellyfin (or another music server) is to use!
Last time I looked into it, nothing handled dynamically keeping a portion of your music on-device for offline play this well!
Features can’t be beat for sure. They skip all the extra BS and just have a quality streaming service. Whodathunk that’s all people want? 🤣
They seem to be what Tidal pretends to be.
Apparently Tidal finally ditched MQA and went back to flac. How they ever went in for it with how shit it it turned out to be with some basic investigation, I have no idea.
I didn’t expect it to include podcasts this year, so it outed me to a work colleague (there was a gay podcast I tried in it). He was chill about it, but why the fuck are podcasts even in Wrapped?
I was disappointed in the graphics, but my stats seemed right. The slide for my top podcasts had black text on a black background, but luckily all my top 5 podcasts have their name on their logo. Still looks kinda stupid though.
hallucinated
It is just fucking wrong. AI isn’t a living thing that is comparable to a person or animal, or even a plant. It is wrong a lot and that is because it has no motivation or reality or anything like that. It is pattern matching that is not reliable for factual results, and sometimes the results are just wrong.
Good callout. We shouldn’t attribute intent, experience, or any other human characteristics, to software.
