• gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Also gotta remember about the Irish Potato Famine where the English just literally stood by and said “well yeah that’s just how it is” due to “free market” reasons. (In fact, they made everything worse by demanding that Ireland continue to export wheat)

    The Irish Potato Famine killed approximately 1 million people due to “free market above all” ideology.

  • Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip
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    Ye the world was a peaceful place before capitalism, there were no wars, no slaves and no …

    checks history books

    Oh no

    Oh no no no no

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      Scale. It’s about scale and centralization. Sure there were slaves but capitalism made more than ever in human history. Sure there were wars but capitalism made them bigger and further away from the rich nations committing them’s population.

      It’s about scale. It’s like comparing a single thief to a crime syndicate of organized thieves and saying “well there has always been thieving”

      Yes. But never with so much damage.

  • humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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    Due to Ukrainian anti-soviet (nazi) influence in 1990s, the famine was upgraded to a genocide for Ukraine (Holomodor). “Stalin bad” is a welcome narrative for US/CIA.

    There was a genuine global famine at the time, and the US demanded Stalin pay USSR debt in food. Most of those exports went through Ukraine, and so Ukraine had some agency in its own famine levels. Ukraine’s per capita food allotment was higher than most USSR states including non-nazi/non-antagonist Kazahkstan which had more deaths but did not declare famine a genocide.

    The complex politics, like Syria’s famine/drought that sowed the seeds for ISIS/Israel takeover, meant not making everyone happy. Bourgeois farmers outside of Ukraine, the Kulaks, wanted extortion, famine market, pricing, and Stalin wanted to pay them less.

    The Irish Potato famine, was an oligarchist driven famine, the US would approve Stalin of having chosen. There was plenty of Irish potato production, but the prices were too high for the Irish to pay, so they were exported more. Stalin’s “crime” was fighting extortion pricing.

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    Genocides, slavery, war - that’s literally instructed in the Judaic religious texts. Correlation does not mean causation.