• xenomor@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    It’s time for the world community to start treating the United States as an environmental, economic, and military threat. We are not a partner. We don’t value the wellbeing of anyone, be they in other countries or our own for that matter.

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    This will mainly hurt the American industries. The rest of the world is moving on, whether or not USA is on board.

    • tal@lemmy.today
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      https://www.euronews.com/green/2024/11/04/cop29-what-is-the-paris-agreement-and-how-will-countries-be-held-to-account-in-baku

      The iconic international climate treaty - the Paris Agreement - includes a pledge to try and keep temperatures from rising by more than 1.5C above pre-industrial levels.

      So how are countries doing on sticking to 1.5C or below? Well, not very well. Just last month the UN warned that current climate policies put the world on track for 3.1C of warming by 2100.

      Probably going to need to be some change from the current trajectory, if so.

    • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.worldOP
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      My concern is for the planet. The US is by far the largest contributor to climate change if you account for the additional emissions from US manufacturing in China. We can’t afford this move backwards.

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        Meh. The U.S. probably are also going to be one of the most affected and if Trump enacts all his economic ideas, the U.S. Economy will tank HARD, meaning the contribution to climate change will shrink regardless.

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          Increasing dependency on cheaply made imported goods only increases the emissions from production by nations with lower regulations. Couple that with emissions from increased trade, and I’m not as sure that economic hardship would reduce the US footprint in a noticeable way.

  • SGGeorwell@lemmy.world
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    And now we watch as Christians vote to destroy God’s creation in order to drive vroomier pick-up shit wagons.

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      Their goal is to bring about the end of days so that they can all be saved and go to heaven. They are literally trying to end the world.

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        This is not an exaggeration. They literally don’t care about the world because “we’re all going to heaven anyway.” I have relatives that have said as much.

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          Like sometimes I can envy the people who believe this shit, how simple a life you must live… So carefree and understanding of others, to let people live their own lives how they want knowing in the end we all get to go to some magical place forever…

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        This reason is why I laugh about Israel lining up behind the American right wing. Like you guys know what Israel is for according to the bible, right?

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          I have no clue, because never reading the bible thoroughly because of being an atheist and all. I did a quick search and found something about being model nation under god and fully embracing the Messiah as a nation. But not sure what you refer to.

          • Doomsider@lemmy.world
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            Something along the lines of the second coming of Christ happens (or first coming of the Messiah if your are Jewish) when a major war breaks out in the Middle East around Israel. It is related to Christian Zionism.

            The problem is of course this has already happened numerous times in history. So they are basically full of shit.

    • ryan213@lemmy.ca
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      Maybe they just think the sooner the planet is destroyed, the sooner they’ll be rescued from the rapture.

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        It’s definitely more of a ‘The Rapture is coming! The Rapture is coming!’ Type of nonsense.

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          I think they didn’t read the book :/.

          “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

          For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’

          Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25‬:‭41‬-‭45‬ ‭(ESV‬‬)

          ““Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7‬:‭21‬ ‭(ESV‬‬)

      • CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net
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        Nope they genuinely think that the only reason we’re having these weather events is because there’s NOT ENOUGH carbon in the atmosphere.

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          They are spreading 666 particles. They think God is going to forgive them for willingly spreading hell mass?

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    Providing he doesn’t become a dictator, which is certainly probable, his impacts on the environment will be bad, but not catastrophic.

    Historically, when the incumbent is out, the president flips to the other party. Businesses plan strategy out for 5-10-20 years. Trump dismantling regulation won’t force them to reconsider their strategy entirely. They’ll use the 4 years as breathing room knowing it’s probable a democratic executive will return in 2029. They’ll slow walk progress, but they aren’t going to abandon everything and start ramping up emissions. They still have to sell products in CA and the 16 states that follow CA emissions rules. We already saw that in 2016, auto makers stayed the course. They enjoyed the extra time to get their fleet MPGs up, but they knew time would eventually out and they’d need to be competitive when that happened.

    Trumps “drill baby drill” plan sounds good to idiots, but oil is still subject to supply and demand. They already lease more land than they could ever use. They’ll use trump to buy up leases that would otherwise go to renewables, but they aren’t going to start pumping oil past demand and driving their profits down. Especially considering retaliation tariffs could cut into exports as well.

    The IRA benefits red states more than blue and they are already begging GOP leaders to leave it alone. Trump might be able to cut individual tax credits for the middle class. Slow some solar and EV purchases, buy that’ll cut into Elon’s business as well, so maybe he won’t even get that done.

    Of course, if he goes full dictator, we’re fucked anyway. But if he stays within the confines of our flawed democracy, and money prefers he do so they can continue to buy laws forever, then there’s a chance his damage will be confined as well.

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      Man, I hope whatever being out there that’s fucking with us hears this, and it’s not just grade-A hopium.

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    Eh, the ocean taking Florida will be a net gain for humanity. I’m looking forward to watching all those republican voters lose their houses.

    Anyone with half a brain was looking at projected sea level rise before buying a house, so… ya. Byeeeeee Florida, you won’t be missed.

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      I get what you’re saying, but I’ve lived my entire life in Florida and I’ve never been a supporter of conservative policies. I didn’t vote for climate change and I’m certainly not in support of of repealing policies to at least slow it down. Me and my family are going to suffer from this just the same. I understand you want to feel the joy at the suffering of climate change deniers, but there’s a lot of people here who don’t deserve what we’re going to get. A lot of us may not have the ability to just leave and go elsewhere and are going to suffer anyway. Unfortunately, the people who most deserve what they get have enough money to escape it and aren’t going to suffer the consequences.

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        Get out if you can. People are willing to help. I know that these are empty words from an internet weirdo. Please, these hurricanes are going to be worse.

        Move away from the coasts, and places prone to drought. The wildfires rage on the West Coast.

        The northeast might have to deal with snow, but it’s been less and less every year. Yay global warming!?

        I live in a conservative area in a blue state. Would be nice to see some of those chuds complaining about migrants from the other side of the country actually have to deal with climate refugees.

      • Zacpod@lemmy.world
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        It’s true. You don’t deserve what’s happening. You put up a good fight, and now you’re hosed. I’m so sorry this is going to happen to you. I sincerely hope you find a way out.

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        If you fully expect to lose everything you have at some point then why would you wait until that happens to act? You won’t have a choice at that point so do something now and save what you can.

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          No one uproots their life, says goodbye to lots of friends you probably won’t see again, switches jobs, takes the kids out of school and subjects them to losing their entire social life right now, just because the risk of flooding is increasing within the next 30 years.

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            Saying that the whole state will definitely be underwater is a significantly stronger statement than “the risk of flooding is increasing”. Still, people move somewhere else every day for reasons a lot more trivial than either.

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    Everybody who is signed up to it should impose tariffs or sanctions on those who are not.

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    Whew! Biden refused to take aggressive action on climate change like his voters wanted. Glad we’re finally on the right track!

    /s