It’ll push a shit ton of new pirates, thus creating more headaches for them if $100 games become the new normal. It’s almost like they love shooting themselves in the feet with a shotgun and then blaming everyone else as to why they can’t walk like they used to.
some developers “hope” the next installment in the GTA franchise will be priced at $80–$100
Management are NOT DEVELOPERS.
Executives are NOT DEVELOPERS.
Shareholders are NOT DEVELOPERS.
Yeah, I guarantee you not a single developer gives two shits about how much the game costs. It’s not going into their pockets regardless.
That’s not true. I’ve been a developer for 18 years on big AAA and small indie games. Most people I’ve worked with very much cared about pricing. When you work on a game and put years of hard work into it, you want it to be a success. If the game is not profitable, you might lose your job so of course you care when management shows up with a pricing strategy that doesn’t make sense to you. Sure, passion is a big part of making games but it’s also our job and we’re not oblivious to what the game we’re working on is worth.
Oh and yes, we do get bonuses based on the performance of the game.
Opinions on that one time Microsoft closed Arkane and the studio behind HiFi Rush, despite the latter’s success and the fact the former made Redfall a slop because of total mismanagement? I’m curious in how nervous that makes you as a developer and how common this bullshit is as seem from within; from outside, it’s basically all I remember about AAA because I don’t often interact wit the scene apart from reading.
I’m loving the balls on studios. Yesterday we had “experts” suggesting it might cost 100 bux, and today it’s already the beggining of a trend. And the game isn’t even out. In fact, we only have the trailer for the game and they’re already predicting prices.
My prediction is yes, they’ll ask 100$ and more, and yes, people will pay it.
But the nerve, I swear. “Yeah, our games have gotten sloppier every year. And yes, we fired tens of thousands solely for profit reasons. But line must go up, so you better start paying”
Do you really think people will buy it? I’ve played most of the GTAs, but I’m not about to spend 100 dollars on a video game.
There’s enough people in what I assume to be big gaming communities, like active and paying and stuff, that are defending this, citing that other stuff got more expensive, too… and somehow not many agree that incomes have not risen proportionally. Them temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
Somehow I think that most people defending this kind of crap are too young to actually have a first-hand feeling of how much prices for everything have risen.
You’re clearly not the target audience. Every slightly popular game has its whales. Something as popular as GTA? They’ll sell it at $100 and laugh all the way to the bank.
Something to consider. With conversion, new games are usually $80-$100 in Canada.
People still buy them.
Meaning this game will be MORE THAN $100 Canadian and still sell like hotcakes.
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Yeah but they don’t cost $100
Not yet, might follow after this stunt faces no lash back and results in profits.
I don’t know though you’ve got to consider your target audience and their income method. The income method for the target audience of pokemon games is asking their parents.
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My prediction is yes, they’ll ask 100$ and more, and yes, people will pay it.
Well the game could be disastrous and sell poorly after the first week.
To be honest, they could launch the game as a 1 MB file that brings you to a black screen that says get fucked, and they would still make their money’s worth just out of the people who will blindly buy the game because they’ve been waiting for GTA 6 for so long that they bought it release day.
And then they could just move back to GTA V pretending nothing happened because the same people that would have impulse purchased GTA 6 with zero research are also the people who play GTA V religiously spending money on the micro transactions there and that isn’t going to cut their addiction
Honestly this could all be a campaign from Rockstar to get ahead of higher pricing. They throw out $100 to some random people and let them run with it, so when they announce a $80/$90 price tag everyone bregurdingly goes along with it.
That’s what I’m thinking. Get the fanbase used to seeing 100+, and then suddenly an 80$ game will feel like a bargain lol
I honestly believe it, these test the water kind of leaks, more like intentionally invisible marketing to see the reactions
I think rumours about the price tag were already going before the trailer even came out lol.
Looks like PatientGamers’ membership numbers will be on the rise soon.
I never pay full price for a game.
Always running sales. If they aren’t just check history or set an alert on isthereanydeal and wait a bit.
This is the way.
Thank you for the first link, kind stranger.
I don’t even buy a game when it’s 70…
At 80 there is no fucking way…
90, are they crazy? Never!
100? Lulz, go fuck yourself lunatic
I think there is maybe 1 game that I would consider spending 100 for the base game. And that’s because I love the series and it is very much a long term game for me, Street Fighter.
But that would be a very tough sell, it would have to be something really special to part with that much, even though I know I would get 1000s of hours out of it
You already spend more than 100 for Street Fighter and always have. The full roster for SF6 is currently 100/110 bucks. Not counting MTX and extra cosmetics.
Sure, you didn’t pay it all at once, but that’s no different than me buying SF2 and then Super SF2 the following year, each for seventy-ish bucks.
While true, the base game is still only 60.
If I had to spend an additional 40 for just the base game(not the 2 seasons of characters), that would be a much harder sell.
Sure.
And the natural conclusion of that is why have the up front charge at all. You do the 2XKO thing or the Multiversus thing and just let people play and charge for the characters. Of course that may mean being online for purchase authentication, right?
I don’t like where that goes.
I think SF in particular is pretty sure it can pull a decent chunk of cash up front and not impact sales too much, so that’s better for them, since they’re monetizing all the casual players, but sitll. It’s a dynamic that’s in play and I don’t like it.
I think that’s missing a lot of the content. If SF6 was free to play, if wouldn’t have the single player portion. And would have had a couple of free characters.
2XKO is going to launch with something like 9 characters(might be missing remembering the number), Maybe they add more before release but it is a tiny roster for a tag game.
There is also massive changes between games, and they don’t disappear, so you can still have those tournaments. If it goes free to play, I feel like they kinda get stuck with the game and systems and no easy way to move onwards, with a bit of a PR nightmare(abandoning the game and all that).
I feel like there is pros and cons to both methods, but don’t really think f2p Street Fighter is a good move. I do think sf7 whenever that is released will be another paid game, and will be more expensive upfront.
I do think fighting games are a special case because the DLC is so obvious that the seasonal microtransaction stuff is not as much of a focus.
But hey, SF6 did add a battlepass, so… it’s moving in that direction. We’ll see.
Yeah, I have a love(like… tolerate)/hate relationship with the battle pass. I don’t mind it, cause it is cheap, pointless and you get your money back, and it is super easy to complete it.
But also, it can fuck off, battle passes suck in their timed implementation, it is pointless, you have to get premium currency to get it which is obviously not purchasable at the exact amount.
Only thing I think was good is that it bought in the emulated game catalogue.
Fuck you.
Thats a no from me dawg
Ubisoft I’ve just had an idea to win players back
Just a reminder that you can play AAA titles until you die and never pay more than $15 per game, if you wait for a couple years and a sale.
Patient gaming ftw, I was able to get GTAV for free from epic games (only reason to have that stupid app)
Hell, I got GTA V for free (legally, yes). It was the first GTA game I played, and I think its launch reviews were massively overrated.
I doubt I’ll find a free deal for GTA VI, but I ain’t buying it new.
I still don’t understand the appeal for GTA V either. For a game called Grand Theft Auto, the game sure likes to stop you from committing much crime for quite a large amount of time in game, at least to the point I dropped it at least.
Nah, the game is actually pretty fun. I still think San Andreas was the best part but GTA V is far away from being a bad game.
Oh I’m sure it can be fun for people but I just can’t see what’s the fun in it. Maybe I’m too used to Saints Row that drops you into the action immediately.
Just a reminder that no one’s forcing you to spend $100 on the game. If enough people refuse to do so the base cost of the game will go down again. Icarus is my most recent for example, I’ve had it on my wish list for almost a year and a half now, because I wasn’t willing to spend $35 on what that game provided. It’s currently on sale on Steam for $9.
God of War 2018 is currently $20 on PSN
I got Elden ring for $30 a few months back despite the fact that it’s still selling full price at 60.
If y’all are patient and wait they stopped making money on the game which means that they lower the cost to try to incentivize people to buy it.
Plus the first year of sale of a game is The Game’s most important release window, because companies generally will use the first year to decide how popular it was. If enough people refuse to buy the game at their original price point it will destroy their sales metric for the first year which will make it harder on the studio to justify to their parent company that it’s worth making another game, which means that they’re more incentivized to lower the base cost of the game within the first year of launch.
The rate of this is significantly slowed down if everyone is just like oh okay I guess it’s $100 now and then buys it anyway, have patience and hold out, especially a game like GTA 6 where they’re going to gain more money off microtransactions then people actually buying the game. Honestly GTA 6 probably should have just been sold as a free to play because they operate like one
The thing is, universal action like this, even on a fraction of the scale necessary to make a dent and ultimately change things, just doesn’t work because people will always bow to capitalism. They’ll kick the dirt and grumble under their breath as they pull out their wallets.
I know you’re saying just wait until it’s on sale, but the power of “keeping up with the joneses” is unfortunately a tried a true way of capitalism. When people are talking about the game in the first weeks and posting memes and making in-jokes, people that were trying to hold out will cave like a poorly managed mining operation.
Playing lots of RPGs and Jrpgs has trained my Patience. I never buy a game at full price, regardless of how much I want it. I simply wait for a sale until it’s below 35 euro.
Hot take, a very few games are actually worth the 100$ pricetag. The wrong studios believe their games are worth that much tho. I can see myself buying gta6 for 100 but id probably wait for a good sale lol
I’ve definitely found games that I thought were worth $100, and they often refuse to even go as high as $70. Probably the only one that I thought was worth $100 and charged that much for it was Street Fighter 6.
Id much rather pay 100$ for an mmo and get all the nonsense battlepasses they do ‘for life’, feels better to ‘own’ it
I decided to go all out with Monster Hunter Wilds and got the ultimate digital deluxe or whatever. Does it smart? Yes. But the amount of hours I’ve put into World and Rise would make you blush and yell at me to go touch grass. It’s one of the few things I absolutely will not play Patient Gamer with.
GTA VI is another such game. The amount of time I’ve put into V since it dirst came out to PS360, you don’t even want to know.
Unless you do. Then I’ll go look it up.
I’ll pay 100 dolars for gta vi blindly, but studios dont realize that trust is earned.
Well that’s weird because they completely obliterated that trust with the whole GTA online thing.
What happened to all of the expansion content on the single player they promised?
Yea id vote with my money, can’t see myself paying for something while second guessing myself -before- the deed is even done. My fucking dogshit mmo elder scrolls online has a premium subscription even tho its a PAYED GAME, and some aspects literally feel like extortion… Inventory space is insanely limited for a game that has thousands of items, HUNDREDS of different materials. Thought ab buying it a couple times but naahh ain’t nobody extorting me into buying in game subscription bs lol.
People didn’t want to pay for it.
Well that’s a ripe take on this. Evidently you don’t know anyone who runs Linux and played GTA V online. Rockstar can fuck right off for what they pulled. Definitely didn’t earn any trust, and Windows users should be wary as well since they did that with no notice and no fucks given to a portion of their paid users.
To be honest, rockstar has one of the worst multiplayer’s in all videogames. I said what I said because RDR2 was one of my favorite games but even with that I never ever opened the online. So I will buy the next gta first day, play the history, explore the world and eventually uninstall just to never see it again. The good thing is that everyone has something they hate, and everyone has a wallet to vote.
I played GTA V online with three of my friends, and had about 900 hours of play. Then one day, bam, they literally cut anyone using Linux off from being able to connect to the servers. It just leaves a real bad taste in my mouth, because I would have probably gone to RDR2 next, and might have even bought RDR on my Switch. Voting with my wallet is all I can do, and at this point it feels like voting for a president. My tiny little vote won’t really amount to much, but hey at least I can feel good about standing on my principals. Like someone else said, they have 30 year backlog of games, and I have similar. So not playing either GTA V online anymore or buying GTA VI won’t really affect me in the long run as far as hindering my enjoyment of other games so there’s that…
I’m a Linux user, and I’m at the point where I treat any online component as though it doesn’t exist if there’s no offline alternative like LAN. If GTA VI has a campaign as good as the previous two games, it’s still worth it, because I’m not touching the online mode.
I guess the real pisser here was that the online component worked just fine. They made an active decision to just cut off linux players which was a real dick move.
No game is worth that price point.
I got games i have 1k+ hours in, id pay a hunnid fir that nuch entrmertainment.
Exactly. Even a game like Elden Ring or Baldur’s Gate 3 isn’t worth 100$ and those are really great fucking games.
Why do they always say developers instead of publishers?
Because they want you to complain about the developers and not their corporate overlords.
They can price them at €200 for all I care. I’ll only will buy them when they are at €20 anyway.
It might inspire me to continue not wasting my money, and buying everything on sale, if it’s worth it at all
