I know you’re convinced that a little cinnamon improves your chili.

You are incorrect on this conviction.

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      I usually don’t have a nice fine ground coffee on hand. Cocoa powder works just as well! Gives a nice earthy depth to the chili!

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    There are various spices that go into chili that have been lost to time & grandfather’s taking recipes to the grave. I’m ok with a little experimenting, but it should taste like Chili, not “Chili”.

    Also, there is a hard line in the sand at elbow noodles. That’s Goulash.

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      That’s ChiliMac and we’re going to have to fight now because that’s the highest expression of Chili known to man.

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        It’s funny, I love chili and I love mac and cheese, but I find ChiliMac to be somehow worse than the sum of it’s parts.

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          Well I didn’t just mix the two. I put chili over macaroni noodles. Then I add cheese until it’s just the right mix. The heat of the two causes the cheese to melt into a sauce nicely and everyone can control the mix. I’ve had stuff where people put canned chili over velveeta mac and cheese and it made me want to vomit so it’s definitely something that has to be done right.

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      Also, there is a hard line in the sand at elbow noodles. That’s Goulash.

      WHAT?! I was all the way with you, until Goulash. What horrific version of goulash are you eating that contains elbow noodles? Or even noodles at all?

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        American, not Hungarian.

        Goulash is a common food in school lunch rooms and is like a tomato and meat sauce on elbow noodles. It’s not what you’re thinking goulash is, but it’s quite good.

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    Chili is a tomato based curry and pretty much anything is acceptable if balanced properly.

    • cinnamon
    • chocolate
    • coffee
    • oregano
    • cilantro
    • cheddar
    • beer
    • bourbon
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      I know the Japanese will dead ass put apple and raisins in some variations of their curry. Apple is pretty good, adds a sweetness that isn’t overbearing. Raisins, though I will never understand.

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            What kinda bullshit is that? I’ve lived in the country my entire life, and I’ve never heard of that. Are you sure that you’re not thinking about that Norwegian brunost?

            I’ve just googled various kombinations of cheese with added sugar in Danish and I can’t find any references to this.

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        Never tried raisins, but I imagine it could be pretty tasty if well done.

        There are a lot of dishes where you put dried fruit in otherwise savoury meals (I think especially middle eastern or like slavic Plov)

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        Pineapple is pretty common in curries, the jump to apples and raisins isn’t that far tbh

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        You ever had a brown sugar bourbon BBQ sauce?

        Same concept with chili.

        If you haven’t already had it, looks like I’ve added to your homework assignment!

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        Chocolate has been in my family’s secret chilli recipe for generations. If your chilli tastes sweet or chocolaty you messed up. The current generation uses a spiced mexican grandma chocolate. It balances the acidity out and helps everything harmonize.

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        It’s not supposed to be sweet chocolate. It’s coco without the milk and sugar, and it will make almost any chili taste better.

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      According to google (and since the name implies it as well I’m inclined to believe it) it’s actually a chili pepper based stew. With or without meat. Tomatoes and beans are common ingredients, but not part of the base.

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        Sure, but what does that even mean? Because you start with your onion and garlic and build it from there. So in that sense the onion and garlic are the base.

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          You’re confusing the ingredient list with the cooking order. Chili is a chili based recipe because that’s the main ingredient, the ingredient that needs to be there, on top of which you can add other stuff.

          Those are just used as aromatics, they’re not a main ingredient . You can replace them with other stuff or just omit them altogether and you’d still get a Chili. But if you replace the chili, then you just get a stew, can’t really call it chili anymore.

          Take beef bourguignon, for example. It’s a stew as well but its main ingredients, or base, if you will, are the beef and the red wine. Can’t replace those and still call it that

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      A lot of traditionalists might argue tomatoes shouldn’t be in there, but I fully agree – I’ve always joked that it’s an American curry.

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    Cumin can add a cinnamonesque flavor to chilis, I wonder if that is where the idea of putting cinnamon in chili comes from.

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      I love cumin. But really, it has a nutty earthy flavor… One of my favorites along with onion powder.

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      I was so offended the first time I saw Ramsey make chili and added cinnamon sticks. Cumin definitely belongs in chili though.

      Also bigger onion and pepper pieces mixed in, and steak instead of ground beef

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    Chili is short for chili con carne, not chili con carne y frijoles. I understand competitions demanding a certain “purity.” That said, I will put beans in my chili because that’s what I like.

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      I say it’s short for Chile con Carne because beans are the baseline chili - I’d eat chili with beans and no meat, Chile sin Carne, that’s a meal by itself.

      But chili with meat and no beans, like Chile Colorado, needs to be served with beans and rice, it’s not good by itself. I do make that sometimes but people just call it “meat” when I do. Nobody here thinks of it as chili.

      I don’t think any food is pure. Traditions are forever changing.

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        If you’re chili con carne is “just meat,” you’ve seriously skimped on the star of the show, the chilis. Which most people seem to do… I’ve seen way too many chili recipes that are basically just a tomato, meat, and bean stew with a dash of chili powder.

        I don’t think any food is pure. Traditions are forever changing.

        I 100% agree. Hence I said I understand the purists and the chili competitions that don’t allow beans, but I’m going to make mine with beans. Also, much of the best foods are fusions. The chilis, the spicy fruits not the dish, are the perfect example. I can’t imagine a world in which Indian, Thai, or just about any Asian dish doesn’t have a spicy kick to it. Yet every single species of chili originated in South America. Same story with the tomato. My favorite cuisine is Cajun which is French cooking techniques using the South American and Haitian ingredients that were available. There are countless examples like that.

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          Ha, no they call it “meat” but of course there are chiles. Generally anchos & a guajillo and if I have one the smoked oaxacan pepper. rehydrated in the meat broth and blended with onion and roasted tomatillos, not tomato. It’s really good I just cannot think of it as chili.

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              Ha! It’s flavorful as fuck actually with the mostly ancho assortment and tomatillos but the venn diagram in my family for people who like meat heavy meals and the people who like very spicy (as in picante) food doesn’t have much overlap - me and the vegan are the only actual chiliheads.

              When I make the vegetarian chili, it gets jalapenos, tomatoes, lots of bottled chili powder, some tinned chipotle powder, leftover very spicy salsa, sometimes beer or a splash of whiskey, I keep adjusting it until it seems like it will be good, then leave it to simmer or in the slow cooker. it’s more of a refrigerator stew but always pintos, I don’t like any other beans in there.

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      It’s also not short for chili con carne y tomates, so by that logic it’d be weird to put tomatoes in there too lol

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        I’m pretty sure it’s actually short for chili con carne, tomates, espinaca, frijoles, maíze, arroz, más frijoles, calabacín, brócoli, pimientos verdes, comino, chipotle, y pimentón ahumado.

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    Reminds me of the scene from The Good Place where Chidi puts peeps in his chili 1000095944

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    These rules come from the same people who put a slice of cheese on apple pie. “It adds a savory quality to all the sweetness.” Fuck off, it adds the taste of cheese to apple pie. People also like mint and chocolate, maybe you should eat some M&Ms coated in Vicks vaporub

    Chili is steaming dog food with too many spices and onions for dogs to eat. If you think your chili tastes better with beans or even cinnamon, then get down with your bad self. Anyone who tells you otherwise is welcome to not eat your chili.

    “Syrup doesn’t belong on waffles/french toast”
    “Cookies shouldn’t have raisins”
    “You shouldn’t put butter on your tortillas”
    Fuck all y’all, I’mma eat my food how it tastes good and you can maybe chime in once you got a show on the food network

    ^I’m a Texan who will eat your chili with or without beans and I approve this message^

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      Whoa now. Whoever said Syrup doesn’t belong on waffles should be kept away from sharp objects.

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      As a fellow member of the [If It’s Delicious Who Cares If It’s aUtHenTic] Club, I don’t usually feed my dogs a hand selected blend of peppers and spices, but you’re invited to the cookout anyways.

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        I don’t care how they’re picked, you generally shouldn’t feed peppers and spices that you’d use in chili. And never onions, garlic, or grapes regardless of the intended application.