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    Would have been unbelievable if the US police wouldn’t have a long history of framing people because they are just too buttfuck stupid to do their jobs.

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    Sounds like fake ass bullshit to me.

    Free Luigi yall ain’t got shit no video footage nothing.

    “He has read 300 books!!!” Is all i see from clowns supporting this regime.

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    Luigi is innocent. He did not kill Brian Thompson. He is a hero by the simple virtue that he is an innocent young man who was dragged through hell over something he didn’t do and is having his life put on the line.

    As for who actually did it. I hope he lives a long, quiet life.

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    Plot twist: good guy policewoman deliberately makes it impossible to prosecute Luigi.

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    Goes to show how much this isn’t about Luigi, or even Brian Thompson. It’s about the elite sending a message to the other 99%. Think, even if their case against Luigi is rocky at best, all that matters is they can get him to pay for Brian, regardless of whether he did it or not, or where the evidence points.

    All that matters is that we the “peasants” get the underlying message:

    • If you kill/harm an elite they’ll chase you and make you pay with the full weight of their resources (and emphasis on “resources”, not necessarily “law”).
    • If you did not kill or harm an elite you’re still at risk, because then they’ll choose a “peasant” scapegoat to pay anyway.

    All that matters is that they get to take their pound of flesh, and that the “peasantry” gets discouraged to fight for their rights as the elite takes, and takes and takes.

    Which is why it’s so important that regardless of Luigi having done it or not, he should walk free unless there’s solid, undeniable evidence of him doing it, like an actual and verified non-deepfake video of the assassination with his clear face on it. And even then he must only face the consequences the law demands, and what others would face in his place for killing the everyday average Joe. The fact that the life lost was an elite should have no bearing on the consequences.

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      Christ, imagine if he really was set up after all this?

      Or that the charges don’t stick?

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        People have been saying since he was announced as a suspect that he didn’t look like the shooter that appeared on the cameras. He sort of looks like him but it’s really not that clear cut that it’s definitely him

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          Also it couldn’t have been Luigi, he has an alibi. We were hanging out that day.

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                How could he have planned a murder if we were so busy setting up the balloons and signs? That party took days of prep work.

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                  yeah fellas sorry i just kinda crashed immediately after the candles were blown out x.x; and Luigi worked even harder than I did, up and down the ladder hanging all the streamers… bro has such an eye for decorating though, right?!

                  hey btw [email protected] did your dad ever get around to enjoying that steakhouse giftcard we got him?

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          Even if he’s really the shooter, imagine if they cannot prove it’s him because it would showcase the immense dystopian surveillance tech everywhere in the US. So they had to pretend they got an anonymous call and plant evidence instead.

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              The good faith exception is such bullshit.

              I don’t get a good faith exception if I truly thought that the speed limit was actually 75 instead of 55, even if my phone and car told me that was the case.

              It doesn’t even make sense to me in a mental gymnastics way, like, just because I tried hard and was honest, doesn’t make a warrant any more or less valid.

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                don’t get a good faith exception if I truly thought that the speed limit was actually 75 instead of 55

                If you have a decent lawyer this is possible I’m pretty sure. Essentially the wealthy do get a good faith exception.

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          If the defence can create enough doubt that the gun was his, I doubt they have a case otherwise.

          Especially considering the jury may well be quite sympathetic to him.

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            Tbf just because he had a gun on him doesn’t mean he was the shooter. I have a gun on me, am I the shooter Greg? Plenty people have guns, and it’s even legal to have a 3d printed gun, and even if he was concealed carrying without a permit, “so?”

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                Kinda, yeah if the barrel and striker matches up that’ll be tough to beat. That could be easily thwarted though by running a rough brush, or changing the barrel with another one, and changing the striker, and if he’s worth his salt he ditched those before he even left the city. And even a match isn’t necessarily 100% proof it’s the gun, just like 99.999% lol.

                Honestly, I do think it was him, personally. Just playing devils advocate.

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                  If he was as smart as you think, the gun would have been broken apart and the individual pieces dumped in a series of rubbish bins.

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              Having a 3D printed gun on you isn’t something most people do though, so it’s not a good look.

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                Depends where, in a few states they are illegal but in a good few more it’s actually 100% fine as long as you don’t also have drugs. Doubly so if: white. “Italian” (whether he is or not he’d pass in my area) is white enough. P80s are more common, but same concept.

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            Especially considering the jury may well be quite sympathetic to him.

            I think people on the internet vastly overestimate how sympathetic a jury will be.

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                  manslaughter at best. Or would be in a place where laws weren’t made for the wealthy.

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      He also allegedly had the manifesto with him, which makes no sense. Basically they just said “We randomly got a tip for this guy at mc donalds and he happened to have all possible pieces of evidence on him days after making a clean get away” mmm yeeah sure…

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        And ‘oh, by the way’, we botched the arrest and search and there are some real questions about chain of custody, the search itself, and the evidence. Then there’s the ease (edit: ‘eaves’) dropping on his privileged communication with his attorney… clown show over here.

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        My pragmatic theory:

        • He is the guy (I’m not saying it’s a bad thing)
        • The “anonymous tip” was rather “illegal surveillance/tech us plebs don’t know about”
        • Police found the gun and manifesto in NYC, and they planted it on him to ensure an easier conviction
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        And it would’ve been so much easier to plant the stuff at his house while he was being taken. Except that would have required a small amount of thinking.

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    At this point the funniest thing would be if the real assassin was to take down another healthcare CEO.

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      Someone, can’t remember who…so if it’s you (not necessarily you OP, a general you) put your hand up, in a different Luigi thread a month or so ago had a pet theory that I think probably holds a reasonable amount of water.

      The theory is that that CEO was knocked off by a paid hitman, possibly contracted by his spouse, and Luigi happened to be picked up as a scapegoat because the NYPD, or the arresting officer, was complicit/paid off a tidy sum.

      With this coming up, it’s even less of an unlikely scenario.

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        Why would the hitman engrave the bullets? If they’re picking a plausible scapegoat with severe medical issues, then why one that’s young rich and handsome?

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          Man, I never said the theory was…dare I say… bulletproof? 🤓

          Buuuuuut…if all the evidence was planted? Look, the “manifesto”, the engraved bullets, the whole thing is a cop’s wet dream. I’m willing to believe Luigi is in fact the triggerman, willing to believe that he’s unhinged enough to have toted all that about with him. You gotta think though…the NYPD were frothing, Altoona PD are under staffed, under paid. Not outside the realm of possibility it’s a frame job.

          Just a tinfoil hat theory that I thought was…fun? Not really the best word for it, but fits well enough.

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        The theory is that that CEO was knocked off by a paid hitman, possibly contracted by his spouse, and Luigi happened to be picked up as a scapegoat because the NYPD, or the arresting officer, was complicit/paid off a tidy sum.

        This would be a better theory if Luigi had a serious alibi. Also, if he wasn’t tied up with the Silicon Valley Longtermist movement, which has already produced a number of more low-profile killings.

        I wouldn’t discount the pet theory, because it does sound like the kind of shit mega-millionaires get up to. But the NYPD picking up this guy specifically, where and when they did, with no credible counternarrative as to where he was at the time of the killing, makes me strongly suspect they have the right guy. But - like with the OJ Brown-Simpson murder - they’ve got such a clown car of detectives and a grandstanding mayor and self-insert celebrity journalists and prosecutors promoting the case as spectacle that they’re going to completely fuck this thing at trial.

        If he wins the criminal case but loses a far more professionally executed civil “wrongful death” case a few years later, I would not be surprised in the slightest.

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          All good options.

          I would argue that while billionaires are stealing your money, healthcare CEOs are taking lives, which is more important in my mind.

          Which isn’t to say that billionaires don’t deserve the same treatment, this is just prioritization for the most benefit in the shortest amount of time… Long term, a lot more heads need to roll.

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              Both is the correct answer.

              I’m just putting an emphasis on the healthcare industrial machine in the USA because it’s causing more acute harm to the people of the USA than anyone else.

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              I won’t disagree. Most billionaires are at least indirectly responsible for significant harm and loss of life. Whether they support, endorse or profit from inhumane, cruel and exploitative business practices, such as we see in the cobalt mines of the Congo, or other mineral mines whether for diamonds, lithium, or whatever…

              Or they are profiting or directly befitting from people who are underpaid, and eventually, because of corporate profiteering, forced into poverty and they die because they are unable to afford to live… Or they are denying people life saving pharmaceuticals though supporting or profiting from the drug industry, or ownership therein (in whole or in part)…

              Or they’re more directly responsible for harm by being an active voice in, or in support of, denying, deposing, and delaying, anything that might reduce a companies profits, especially healthcare companies.

              The reality of it is: when you achieve a certain level of monetary wealth, your money is invested. Frequently those investments support something that doesn’t causes harm and death to your fellow humans.

              Therefore: anyone with sufficient wealth to warrant investments, is almost always, someone endorsing, supporting, or profiting from the pain, suffering, and deaths, of other people. QED: all billionaires are evil, mass murdering pieces of shit, who should be strung up and quartered in the town square. I will settle for seeing their heads roll.

              Where did I put my guillotine?

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                You put it so eloquently, thank you. We sadly haven’t even been able to find our collective pitchforks yet…

                P.S. I think you accidentally put a “doesn’t” in the last line of “The reality of it is:”

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          Almost

          Now I’m intrigued. Which billionaires should we spare and why?

          I mean, Taylor Swift recently crossed the line and she’s been incredibly generous with it. So has Bezos’ ex-wife.

          Does the work done at the Gates Foundation get them a pass?

          Is there really “no such thing as an ethical billionaire”? Should there be no exceptions?

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            It would be very difficult to describe what Taylor has done as anything unethical at all let alone deserving to be killed. She’s genuinely worked hard since she was a teenager to be where she is, writes her own music, pays the people working for her very well, donates to charity etc.

            What more do you want?

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    So they not only have to find 12 people who haven’t been fucked personally or had friends family fucked by their health insurance, now those 12 people have to be blind Pig supporters?

    Anything other than a not guilty (or some insanely strong evidence with a perfect chain of custody) verdict for this guy and the fix is in.

    If they convict Luigi get the fuck out while you still can, cause the alternative is guerilla warfare against the Gilead states of orange stupidity.

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    It seems more and more everyday that vigilante justice is the only justice against this corrupt corporate tyranny. I think we all wish this wasn’t the case but as my dad used to say you can wish in one hand and 💩 in the other and see what hand fills up first

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    When I picked up bodies for the Medical Examiner’s Office, we had very strict chain of custody rules we had to follow. If the decedent had any valuables on their person (purse, wallet, jewelry, etc), or any medication, we had to write detailed descriptions of every item found (a gold ring is not a gold ring, it’s a gold colored ring), then package it all up with the ranking police officer on the scene as a witness who then signs the sealed bag. Even the slightest deviation from this would get us immediately fired, and even prosecuted if surviving family members made any accusations about theft.

    In a capital murder case where an alleged murderer/terrorist can potentially walk free because the chain of custody rules weren’t followed, how the fuck does this cop still have a job? How is she not being charged with tampering with evidence and obstruction of justice?

    Don’t get me wrong, I am all for letting Luigi go free, but this is a fuck-up of monumental proportions.