Whatever happened to “femoid”? I know I read that one somewhere.
The future is femoid
So much cultural imperialism in here.
Once US-Americans decide how they want a word used, they will harrass and cyber-bully everyone into using it the same way / using the same word
Boys, you need to realize that english isn’t “your” language. You don’t get to decide how others speak it.
It’s everyone’s language, everyone can bully each other over it. The Brits added u to a bunch of words just to fuck with us…and then misspelled tire. Just last week heard an upper class indian with more British roots give a more Americanized indian man shit for spelling it tire rather than tyre, with zero knowledge of the history.
On the whole I think English speakers are relatively polite about misunderstood words in person, even relatively racist asshats. But when you can’t read the accent, you default to your own culture and in that culture it’s pronounced to rhyme with tamales.
My brother in christ, you do realize the british spelling is the original, right?
The reason you spell it differently was a conscious decision of your revolutionaries to differentiate themselves from the brits
You used the same spelling before your independence, you know that, right?
And how about “noone can bully” instead of “everyone can bully”?
Just throwing tht in the room here.
I won’t bully you for writing “recognise” just to assert your independence, you let us be us and everyone is happy, is tht a Deal?
No, it’s not, go learn history. Its a mix and match on both sides usually because spelling wasn’t standard anyway. Webster picked ones he liked, mostly to feel superior to Brits, Brits picked the opposite to feel superior to americans. We have the legacy accent, uk has the posh accent to sound different. We did simplify some words, Brits complexified others to be more posh.
What
Ladies wasn’t used in the Original Post.
When playing a RPG of some sort, sometimes they give you the ability to reallocate all your talent points in a different way. Such as switching from melee focused to something magic oriented like a wizard or a witch. This is called a Respec, short for Re-specialization.
Respec sounds very similar to Respect. The Original Post is about respecting women.
I appreciate your interest in my comment, hope you have a nice day. Take care.
Thank you for your thorough explanation, I now understand the joke and will react accordingly:
“Heh, that’s pretty good.”
Agreed
“of the feminine species”
Uh, do you want to explain to this guy what a species is, or do I have to?
Well, he didn’t say persuasion, at least…
Trans women want to be referred to as just women, and biological women don’t want to be referred to as Cis women, so other than female, what is there?
I agree that I get the ick from female when referred to by certain men, but at this point, I don’t see another option.
Not wanting to be referred to as cis, is just as ridiculous as not wanting to be referred to as straight. It just means “not trans”. The women who don’t want to be referred to as cis are TERFs, so their opinions are irrelevant.
Is it just as ridiculous as not wanting to be referred to as trans? Why label what something is not rather than what something is?
The problem is female and women aren’t grammatically equivalent, so you can’t just drop one in place of the other anytime you want. It bugs me when people say woman president. Imagine electing a man president. The correct word in that case is male. You’d be electing a male president. I don’t care about anyone’s politics. I’m just getting tired of people in suits on tv using poor language and being asked to be taken seriously. And I’m not singling out democrats. Republicans adopted that language too. There are people on tv who wouldn’t pass kindergarten telling us what they think will affect GDP.
/s?
I sure hope so
The other option is “women”
Works for most conversations, I agree
the feminine species
Does this mean two females are able to produce sexually viable offspring?
Idk what they’re called, but IIRC that there are some all-female lizards that can reproduce either by parthenogenesis or lesbianism.
You’re thinking of mourning geckos!
“seat-pee-ers”?
Wo-men? Well, I’ve heard of men, but this sounds like a foreign language to me.
‘Tarts’ implies sweetness
I think
Sir please stop licking the females
Mmmmmm’lady
Female humans
Kinda long way to say women
There is nothing wrong with “males/females” though. OOP is making a big deal of nothing.
Men/women - gender (social). Male, female - sex (biology). It’s very simple, just use the right one depending on the context.
This isn’t as simple as you are implying as if you want to be a bro to trans people more nuance is generally required. Male and Female are not used strictly scientifically in context. Male and Female are often used as adjective forms of man and woman. Take the example of a male or female firefighter - if a trans man is a firefighter refering to him as a female firefighter using this reasoning comes across as fairly transphobic because it feels like you are either trying to utilize some sort of technical linguistic dodge to find an occasion to misgender them or your purpose is to out them to people unawares of their trans status.
Even when people use male and female as nouns instead of adjectives this transphobic reading applies because a lot of fairly obnoxious people will try and use these words as shorthand to imply that trans identities don’t matter and to avoid calling you by terms that align to your identity or to isolate trans identify out of discussions. This is why you hear the phrase “Assigned male/female at birth” used by the trans community (though it actually originates from the intersex community) or “birth sex” to refer to groups that include non-binary people instead of just male or female. That linguistic abstraction is important because it implies removal by way of time. In trans terms one can be treated as female at birth given the assumption of cisness for infants implying that that term could be inaccurate in the present day.
By contrast “Trans Identitied males/females” is a transphobic dog whistle. “Biologic males/females” has the same vibe because from a scientific prospect the term is so bloody vague it is practically meaningless. The speaker is just trying to imply the social category is irrelevant or putting emphasis on an assumed physicality. Like if someone says for example “biological males in women’s sports” you know the entire point they are going to be making is total exclusion before they even bother to elaborate further.
The reality is words Male and Female still represent social categories unless you append onto them more specific adjectives in term like Phenotypic, chromasomal or so on. These words are not immune from the cultural moment of negotiation of trans inclusion.
Men/women - nouns
Male/female - adjectives
I think the reason male and female get equated with biology is because biologists need to describe individuals in terms of characteristics within the species.
Like, “I live with a small, white, female felis catus and a tall, Caucasian, male homo sapiens” is a weird way to tell people that I live with my cat and my husband outside of a scientific context.
Male/Female are also nouns, which are biological terms.
Outside of a clinical/scientific setting? It’s comes off a bit creepy. If a guy in a social setting refers to women as “females,” it seems derogatory- as if they were talking about look lesser animals.
In online forums like Lemmy or Reddit, if someone calls women “females,” I always picture that person as a Ferengi from Star Trek.
Outside of a clinical/scientific setting? It’s comes off a bit creepy
Male/female toilets sound creepy to you?
It only really comes off as weird when they’re used as nouns. As adjectives they’re generally pretty unobjectionable.
“Male/female toilets” is not the same thing as “males/females”
The fact that it apparently doesn’t sound creepy to you is creepy. You priapic huuumahn.
Nah uh male huuumaaahn. You.
I wouldn’t have a problem with someone using males/females in a vacuum, but all too often I read men/females from incels and misogynists on the Internet, so now “females” feels derogatory by default.
OOP
okay but how does object-oriented programming factor into it
Objectifying women is considered bad form. It’d be like saying they’re just a sub-class of Person.
Excellent reply
Some are sub-class others are dom-class, and then there’s the gimps.
clearly ingenue is the correct choice
or for a potential fun comment thread: is dude gendered? I grew up in a place where a lot of people called everyone dude regardless of gender. That said, when I’ve brought this up, some people get real heated about it.
Dude can be gendered
and some people will think you’re just looking for an excuse to call men people who aren’t, if you say that dude is not gendered to you
we’re on the internet after all, and no one knows the real intentions of the people behind the screen
Idgaf if dude can be gendered. I use dude every time in my speech. I sometimes even use “bro” towards women. People need to get over themselves and stop assuming negative intent at everything
Idgaf if dude can be gendered
good for you, some people really don’t want to be called that.
part of respecting someone’s identity is respecting the terms which they want and don’t want to be called by.
getting them wrong doesn’t make you an asshole, getting them wrong and not caring does.People need to get over themselves
in this context this is identical to Conservative “the new generation is too sensitive!!!” drivel.
Do you fuck dudes?
I don’t, I’m married
My niece calls her mom “bruh”
I sometimes do that to my mom too
I use “my guy” as a humorous precursor to the rest of my sentence regardless of whom I’m speaking to.
Are you okay having the tables flipped and someone calling you “sis”?
Using male language as the default may not bother you and you may have no ill intent with it, but it does have a history tied to it. A history where women were seen as less than and didn’t have equal rights. Western society still uses male language slang regardless of gender (hey guys, dude, bro, bruh) and it all stems from a history of a patriarchal society. Every time we say, “hey guys” to refer to a mixed-gender group, we perpetuate patriarchy, whether we intended to or not.
Legally and overall culturally, women are still seen as less than and we still don’t have equal rights (e.g. divorce and abortion law).
women are still seen as less than and we still don’t have equal rights (e.g. divorce
Actually women have superior rights during divorce, in the western world anyway. Try to keep the children as a man during divorce.
Actually women have superior rights during divorce, in the western world anyway. Try to keep the children as a man during divorce.
Found the incel. Please donate my prize money to any organization that supports passing the ERA.
I honestly don’t think i would be bothered if someone called me sis. I think it would be funny even.
You know I’ve said “dude” all my life and I still use it all the time in regards to everyone. If I saw that someone was genuinely offended at being called dude I wouldn’t use it again with that person, but now that I really think about it I don’t think I’ve ever heard the term in a derogatory way. Like ever. For me it’s always been a happy/inclusive word for addressing friends. My only worry for now is that saying it shows my age.
If I saw that someone was genuinely offended at being called dude I wouldn’t use it again with that person
then you’re golden, dude 🙂
the dude abides.
Hey dude, don’t make it weird. Take a bad song and make it wetter.
Lass
I favor wench.
Now that’s classy, my lassie!
I’ve never noticed that a ferengi head kinda looks like he’s wearing a fedora already.
They wore them so long they fused into their heads.
And I can hear it spoken with a lisp that you get when talking with a mouth full of prosthetics. Pfemales
As a man who likes fedoras, this stereotype offends me. Sadly, it’s an accurate description most of th etime.
Usually the Redditors wear the fedora without knowing how to pair it correctly with the rest of their outfits, so don’t worry, if you wear a nice attire and a fedora people won’t get you confused with the guy wearing an ahegao t-shirt two sizes too small and cargo shorts.
Usually it’s a cheap Trilby anyway.
You need to get big into two tone ska, then the fedora is socially acceptable again.
Broads.
Come on, that’s just obvious bait
