Whatever happened to “femoid”? I know I read that one somewhere.
The future is femoid
The wimwams
A guy walks into a psychiatrist’s office. He says:
“I’m a teepee, I’m a wigwam, I’m a teepee, I’m a wigwam, I’m a teepee, I’m a wigwam!”
The doctor says, “Calm down man, you’re two tents.”
So much cultural imperialism in here.
Once US-Americans decide how they want a word used, they will harrass and cyber-bully everyone into using it the same way / using the same word
Boys, you need to realize that english isn’t “your” language. You don’t get to decide how others speak it.
It’s everyone’s language, everyone can bully each other over it. The Brits added u to a bunch of words just to fuck with us…and then misspelled tire. Just last week heard an upper class indian with more British roots give a more Americanized indian man shit for spelling it tire rather than tyre, with zero knowledge of the history.
On the whole I think English speakers are relatively polite about misunderstood words in person, even relatively racist asshats. But when you can’t read the accent, you default to your own culture and in that culture it’s pronounced to rhyme with tamales.
My brother in christ, you do realize the british spelling is the original, right?
The reason you spell it differently was a conscious decision of your revolutionaries to differentiate themselves from the brits
You used the same spelling before your independence, you know that, right?
And how about “noone can bully” instead of “everyone can bully”?
Just throwing tht in the room here.
I won’t bully you for writing “recognise” just to assert your independence, you let us be us and everyone is happy, is tht a Deal?
No, it’s not, go learn history. Its a mix and match on both sides usually because spelling wasn’t standard anyway. Webster picked ones he liked, mostly to feel superior to Brits, Brits picked the opposite to feel superior to americans. We have the legacy accent, uk has the posh accent to sound different. We did simplify some words, Brits complexified others to be more posh.
What
Ladies wasn’t used in the Original Post.
When playing a RPG of some sort, sometimes they give you the ability to reallocate all your talent points in a different way. Such as switching from melee focused to something magic oriented like a wizard or a witch. This is called a Respec, short for Re-specialization.
Respec sounds very similar to Respect. The Original Post is about respecting women.
I appreciate your interest in my comment, hope you have a nice day. Take care.
Thank you for your thorough explanation, I now understand the joke and will react accordingly:
“Heh, that’s pretty good.”
Agreed
Trans women want to be referred to as just women, and biological women don’t want to be referred to as Cis women, so other than female, what is there?
I agree that I get the ick from female when referred to by certain men, but at this point, I don’t see another option.
Not wanting to be referred to as cis, is just as ridiculous as not wanting to be referred to as straight. It just means “not trans”. The women who don’t want to be referred to as cis are TERFs, so their opinions are irrelevant.
Is it just as ridiculous as not wanting to be referred to as trans? Why label what something is not rather than what something is?
The other option is “women”
Works for most conversations, I agree
/s?
I sure hope so
The problem is female and women aren’t grammatically equivalent, so you can’t just drop one in place of the other anytime you want. It bugs me when people say woman president. Imagine electing a man president. The correct word in that case is male. You’d be electing a male president. I don’t care about anyone’s politics. I’m just getting tired of people in suits on tv using poor language and being asked to be taken seriously. And I’m not singling out democrats. Republicans adopted that language too. There are people on tv who wouldn’t pass kindergarten telling us what they think will affect GDP.
Except “woman” doesn’t mean “female person” anymore, it means “anyone who identifies as a woman” because attaching any common noun at all for people based on sex rather than gender would be accused of transphobia.
It’s kind of like if someone asked what the term for the sexual orientation of someone who is interested in partners they could hypothetically reproduce with is, the answer is there isn’t one and suggesting there should be will get called transphobic.
Is it hypothetical because no one has wanted to reproduce with you for some elusive reason?
partners they could hypothetically reproduce with
“fertile women”
“women capable of pregnancy”
Outdated, slight red flag option: “gynephile”
Or you could even try “I find women attractive and would love to have kids with the woman I love one day”
There, language isn’t that hard.
You’re actually demonstrating my point - I said “a common noun” for one and “a term” for the other. The whole point is that any “acceptable” language for those notions (a person of the sort who possesses female genitals and potentially has ova that she could hypothetically carry to term and identifies as a woman and a person attracted to the sort of person they might hypothetically be able to reproduce with) has to have at the very minimum an adjective if not an entire phrase attached to it.
For example, imagine someone tried to re-popularize the old English words to refer to cis folks, using wifmen for cis women in this example. That would immediately be deemed transphobic, specifically because it’s a common noun to refer specifically to cis women and not a shared category you have to use an adjective or phrase to differentiate from.
Same thing applies to orientation - we have a lot of words for sexual orientations. But a word for a person who is attracted to cis people of a given sex relative to one’s own is unacceptable - the very idea that there could be a term for it is transphobic. Despite sexual attraction being one of those rare cases where what genitals you have and whether or not they’re the original equipment is actually relevant.
Also wouldn’t “gynephile” meaning one who has an attraction to women still not be precise enough, since women includes trans women by definition, at least the feminine ones?
I think you’re just chronically online. Just say female if you’re in a conversation and want to exclude trans women. Most trans people won’t care as long if the context isn’t transphobic. I really don’t see why it’s unacceptable to have an adjective if you’re describing a subset of women. Like there’s not a singular noun for “tall men” but if you’re actually not being transphobic then whatever.
Again with sexual orientation, it sounds like you’re saying that because chronically online. There are people who say it’s transphobic to say straight but exlude trans people. Again, context and intent matters. You can just say straight. This one is tricker because not all trans people have surgically transitioned, genital preference matters, and orientation is a spectrum.
And it’s a tough subject within the trans community itself, because it’s frustrating to present as a gender, transition in every way to that gender, be accepted and pass for that gender, only for someone to say they aren’t attracted to you only after they find out you’re trans. What other conclusion would you have other than transphobia? And it doesn’t help that it often is accompanied by blatant transphobia.
So if someone is calling you transphobic, either the context is also transphobic or they’re misunderstanding your intent.
So that hypothetic person is turned off by learning someone is infertile for any reason?
Let’s say yes, since we’re in a hypothetical. Breeding fetish, perhaps? Maybe just someone who’s specifically looking for a long term relationship leading into children?
Just say what you mean. Intersex and trans people exist. For example, “menstruator” or “people who menstruate” if you’re talking about periods. Not all women menstruate, not everyone who menstruates is a woman, and hell, there are plenty of people who have uteruses but don’t menstruate. It’s way clearer and inclusive.
Do you often find yourself in discussions where the trans-inclusivity/exclusivity of the term is important to know?
Because whenever I use “men, guys” or any other such term, whether it includes trans people doesn’t even cross my mind. Like the discussions if we should welcome “guy friends” at our girls’ game and gossip nights, or if I’m being too naive around “men”. Talking about “males” like an alien species would be weird and mildly offensive. (Mildly because the Finnish word “uros” can imply admiration for a man’s masculinity.)
If you wanted a term for potential partners you could possibly reproduce with, none of the “female, woman, male, man” terms by itself would do, because (even personally known) infertility for various reasons exists.
You thought you ate with this comment 😂
Is this why they always ask how to define “woman”?
If someone asks you to a define a women, chances are they never met one in real life.
Girl, woman
Girl can absolutely be interpreted as condescending if you’re talking to/about an adult
I love that this dumb dumb made a post on reddit. There are search engines, large language models, and the good ole thesaurus to find words that are synonyms. Figure. It. Out.
Girl?
that can still be infantilizing for an adult woman
Little princess?
Adorable little slut? 😡
My adorable little slut? 🥺
(it’s me, I’m the adorable slut)
Princess is a nasty thing to call a woman. https://medium.com/@viridiangrail/princesses-are-nsfw-f9e6c3d4532d
the feminine species
Does this mean two females are able to produce sexually viable offspring?
Idk what they’re called, but IIRC that there are some all-female lizards that can reproduce either by parthenogenesis or lesbianism.
You’re thinking of mourning geckos!
As a magical talking lion, I always go with, “Daughter of Eve.”
A talking lion and a flying squid? That’s some Lovecraftian horror combo
Flying Squid is just my mom de plume. I’m really a Jesus metaphor in big cat form.
mom de plume
What would Freud say about this one? It’s not overly sexual but I like it.
Freud would probably say, “autocorrect, huh?”
I’m not going to fix it now.
It’s Lilith actually
Common but baseless myth
Wow, it’s been a while since I’ve done a Reddit Atheism™, but the same could be said for the garden of Eden.
The Garden of Eden, as we know it today, is more or less canon by the books. Meanwhile, the pop culture view of Lilith is not even close to its source materials.
This ain’t about faith, just being pedantic about the fanfic vs the manga.
I know someone who ain’t gettin’ into Narnia. Not on Aslan’s watch, lady!
Furry Jesus was watching? Ew.
Do women wanna be called “women” tho? I don’t mean this rhetorically, but as a genuine question.
I for example, would hate to be called a “man”. It just makes me sound old. I would prefer being referred to as “male”, or anything that isn’t the word “man”. This is applicable to a lot of my friends too. Don’t women feel the same way?
I don’t see what’s wrong with calling men ‘men’. I don’t mind it at all, seeing as it’s a descriptor of what I am using the English language. What’s your problem with the word?
Not a native English speaker, so I guess I’m understanding the word wrong (judging from the other comments).
It’s just that calling someone a “man/woman” makes it seem like I’m calling them old? Like… I don’t think we associate the word “man” with youth, right? Like… Whenever someone refers to me as a man (which is quite uncommon thankfully), I cringe a little inside.
‘Man’ refers to human individuals, especially adult male humans. So the word is pretty flexible, and can technically refer to any human regardless of age.
I’ve never encountered a man or woman that hated being called whichever was appropriate
… honey, there could be another reason you don’t like being called a man. 👀 Just a thought.
Nah, I identify as male. It’s just that the visual of a “man” for me is an older bearded dude with a deep voice… which I’m not…
Why would they want to be called, ‘boy’, ‘male’, etc then?
It happened to me. Being a boy never bothered me, but as I got older becoming a “man” made me dysphoric.
So I became a woman instead.
Fair enough. For me, any gendered language makes me dysphoric when I am not that gender. But of course gender is a very individual and personal thing.
It’s all about context. There are options that are context and age appropriate that aren’t condescending or clinically reductive.
Men’s bathroom and Women’s bathroom > male bathroom and female bathroom
“Hey, guys/gents”, “hey, girls/ladies” > “hey, men”, “hey, women”
First woman President > first female President > first girl President
“First president with vaginas,” per above. Kinda like graduating with honors.
Personally, I’d prefer to be called my name. To each their own I guess
Hello, my name! 👋
I suppose I can call you my name if you really want.
With 117 I can only do chief, sorry.
“Make me a sammich, jewbacca117” just doesn’t have the same ring to it
Birch, please!
How have you applied age to the word “man”? Unless you’re not an adult and “man” to you means being an adult?
Guy probably is between 16 and 25 and doesn’t want to be an adult lol
Apparently not. The world would be a much better place if we all stopped making such a big deal about specific trigger words and focused on the ideas being communicated. If someone’s intent was to be an asshole then sure, get the pitchforks out, but make it clear it’s the idea that’s bad. Don’t just scapegoat the word. If they weren’t obviously trying to be a dick then calibrate your response accordingly.
To put it another way, if you’re upset about the use of a word that a scientist might use to describe something then you’re probably being overly sensitive.
science is often biased by cultural ideas. biology, medicine, and psychology, have been used to pathologise or naturalise things along social lines. this is also reflected in the language they created.
i think it is important for this lamguage to be reevaluated, as culture and the scientific view on the world changes.
Cool, start by learning what a ‘shift’ key is.
this is a conversation about accepting ideas rather than critisizing the form…
go fuck youself asshole
Go tuck yourself in!
P.s. bed! Goodnight, riwo!
No, they are not for you to reevaluate because you hold no knowledge or expertise in these fields. Demanding for outsiders to interfere with the scientific process because of their silly little biases and mental disabilities is a deranged opinion.
Based
Listen, I’m not against using any words. I’m just for using words, that if used cause no harm, and lead to people feeling better. We are emotional beings and it is unnecessary to try to pretend that we aren’t.
If someone wants me to call them “X”, I would try to do that if it is not too out of my way, right? That’s all.
You are correct but social media lives and thrives on the idea of making people overreact to things.
Genders, races, politics… It’s all literally designed for people to argue with eachother while the owners profit on their “discussions” (actual discussions are banned because sensitive snowflakes needs protection).
Not sure where you grew up culturally, but that seems like a very foreign concept to me personally. We use “boys”/“guys” and “girls” to demote young men and women. No one here would get the idea to use “male” and “female”, which to our ears are purely biological words.
Here in Australia we use male/female all the time.
I physically cringe when I see Americans say stuff like “woman politician” instead of “female politician”. It sounds so grammatically wrong, that you legit sound like a caveman impression (ex. “Grug go car”).
Having said that, we would also never refer to women as females. There’s some grammar rules that dictate when we use either, but female is certainly the more common term.
Yeah, to my ESL ears man/woman are nouns, not adjectives, and using them as adjectives comes off as childish.
That said, “female X” can also sound clumsy, if it’s implied that a bare X is male, e.g. “politician” and “female politician”, vs male and female politician. There was a twitter account calling itself a “male programmer” which took the piss out of that trope.
Well, English is not the native language where I’m from. So perhaps it must be the cultural context for the word “man”? I mean, we don’t use the words “male-female” much outside biological contexts as well… I’ve just rarely seen anyone use the words “man/woman” for anyone our age (we’re young adults for context).
No, they want to be called LA class nuclear powered attack submarine.
We’re in shit posting after all.
Happy Xmas, ya filthy animal!
Always liked the strong silent type
You talking about females or farts?
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Is that a US specific term? Do British women get called Astute class nuclear attack subs?
‘Tarts’ implies sweetness
I think
Sir please stop licking the females
Mmmmmm’lady
