Summary

The White House has directed the State and Treasury Departments to draft a proposal for lifting some U.S. sanctions on Russia as part of Trump’s effort to restore ties and end the Ukraine war.

The proposal could ease restrictions on select Russian entities and oligarchs, though it’s unclear what the U.S. would receive in return.

Trump has signaled openness to sanctions relief despite previously threatening harsher measures.

Talks between U.S. and Russian officials have intensified, with economic cooperation, including rare earth minerals, emerging as a key topic.

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    Fight Canada, help Russia. How in the hell are Republicans just watching this happen? Cowards and frauds, all of them.

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      As Trudeau said at the top of his speech yesterday:

      So today the United States launched a trade war against Canada, their closest partner and ally, their closest friend. At the same time, they’re talking about working positively with Russia, appeasing Vladimir Putin, a lying, murderous dictator.

      Make that make sense.

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    The White House has directed the State and Treasury Departments to draft a proposal for lifting some U.S. sanctions on Russia as part of Trump’s effort to restore ties and end the Ukraine war.

    Yeah that’s definitely the reason they’re doing it.

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    though it’s unclear what the U.S. would receive in return

    Unclear to who? It seems to me that Trump wants to gain the favor of Putin. Why is this unclear? Is the Guardian too afraid to make this accusation? For someone like Trump that is always looking out for himself, it’s unlikely he’s doing this out of the kindness of his heart.

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    4D chess right here, put economic stress on our allies, but try to help out our enemies.

    If we dont know what we are doing, the enemy certainly cant anticipate our future actions!

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      It’s more subtle. Technically they won, but while they were winning, Russia was buying the power in US. Weird situation now where the winner becomes a vassal state of the loser…

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      Yeah it’s kinda crazy that it basically just lived on in the hearts of Putin and his underlings. We moved on. He made it his mission. There’s a lesson in there somewhere.

      Also, he basically became the thing he hated to win. Killed us with capitalism. There’s a story there.

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        The real lesson is to run down your enemies as they retreat. America failed to do that with the south after the Civil War. America failed to do that with the Sov Union. Looks like the allies failed to do that with the Axis as well. Every evil entity will roll over and beg for mercy with crocodile tears. Leave the people, annihilate the state.

        Either recruit people to your side or marginalize and destroy them completely. There’s no in between.

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      Krasnov Trump scammed his investors, loans and bankrupted his casinos. He is doing the same to US to enrich himself.

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        Both Putin and Trump are 80s relics and so it matters little how much the wor[l]d has changed, the cold war facet applies to the blindly pro-russian stance of Trump.

        Of all the stances to take, this one is insane. Almost every violent conflict has shades of gray, nuance rather than unambiguous good and bad. The Ukraine-Russia conflict is one of those supremely rare straightforward ones where Russia is just straight up the bad guys.

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          If china is about to kill you economy, who gives a damn about Russia?b

          And u clearly have no historical knowledge of that conflict.

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        Which has nothing to do with anything, but I bet it sounded cool in the goo in your numbskull.

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            “I put at least some minimal effort into looking like I don’t just fantasize gargling their balls. Even though I do.”

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          This is a total lie. there is no sense to keep funding stupid usaid propaganda - it keeps population dumb

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            Well Russia was doing all this same stuff back the too so I’m not really wrong. They certainly aren’t more peaceful these days.

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            it keeps population dumb

            You mean dumb like all those Trump Musk supporters ? Or dumb because educational programs have been defunded, and fed by social media and classic media controlled by the rich men having power ?

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        Yeah, note instead of Russia being a communist authoritarian hellscape, it’s a capitalist authoritarian hellscape.

        Very different

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          He came into power almost a decade after the Cold War ended, so I don’t get what you mean

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            You’re an idiot then. He was literally a KGB agent. This isn’t even hard to find information, if you Google him it’s on Wikipedia you’ve done literally zero research.

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      pretty much, they switches thier strategy to using propaganda and bribing since the 80s;.

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        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

        In the Americas, United States, and Canada:

        -Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke “Afro-American racists” to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should “introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics”.

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    Wow! It’s amazing how most of the voters who voted for him grew up hating “commies” but suddenly Russia is their ally. Astonishing.

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      Russia used to be godless commies, but now it’s viewed as a white, Christian capitalist state with a strong leader. It’s not, but that’s the bullshit Fucker Carlson and other Russian sponsored propagandists have been spewing for the last decade or so.

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      Maybe that’s cause Russia hasn’t been communist in a long while.

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        It hasn’t stopped people from thinking that “communism” is a synonym for “bad”.

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          What’s quite funny is that in Europe there was never really much hatred for communism. It wasn’t what we did, but we weren’t bothered by it. The red scare was an entirely American phenomenon.

          However fast forward 40 years and suddenly it’s the reverse. America like Russia and Europe is talking about the threat of invasion.

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    Does anyone else remember the 2016 debate with Hillary Clinton where she accused Trump of being a puppet for Putin, and he interrupted “No puppet, no puppet! You’re the puppet!”

    Or when Alnur Mussayev, the Russian officer who served in the KGB’s 6th Directorate in Moscow, said that Trump was recruited as a Russian agent in 1987, under the codename “Krasnov”, when he went to Russia for a “real estate project”.

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      Remember when the SS lost all of their communication records from Jan 6th?

      Europe please be ready. My tea leaves are pointing towards the use of nuclear weapons in Europe while the us is distracted with civil unrest.

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        Just wait. In fucking Russia, civilians are not allowed to own an AK-47, AKM or any military based rifle. To take complete power, Krasnov will need to stomp on 2A.

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          I think Trumpism does not need to take away guns thanks to the correlation between Trumpism and gun ownership. Why would they disarm those who support them and carry out their wishes with a degree of plausible deniability, as in January 6th?

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            Given how things are going a fair number then probably won’t be card carrying Trump supporters for much longer. They’re already pretty pissed off with him.

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            Because ultimately, those armed MAGA people’s faces are just too delicious for the leopards to resist. There’s already been discontent that they aren’t seeing the improvements they wanted, and some of them directly getting screwed by Trump and Musk.

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      About 30 percent of Americans are treasonous cunts and the others have no idea what’s happening

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      The moron that tried used an AR-15 which shoots a tiny little bullet and not the appropriate calibre. If he had known anything about ballistics we wouldn’t be dealing with this.

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        That’s what you get with a bad education system.

        I was taught how to consider bullet velocity and trajectory by the government when I was 20.

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          You probably also were taught to use at least a 30 calibre bullet like the M21 (which is what the Secret Service used to return fire)

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            I wasn’t being trained as an assassin.

            Choosing the calibre wouldn’t be my prerogative.

            What we were shooting with was just 7.62. Which now that I check equates to a .30cal actually. Never knew that, huh.

            I did handle some .50cals, but not a sniper rifle, and I don’t know how sneaky I could be with a tripod mounted .50cal AA machine gun.

            Tldr basic conscription but I did go the longer way voluntarily and am an NCO. I just recalled some basic ballistics lectures from your comment.

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              The AR bullet is less than one third the weight and much smaller than the 7.62 round which is why I said it was a shitty choice (and specifically why we still use Korea era armament to this day in the M 21, and 60, mini gun etc (NATO 7.62).

              NATO 5.56 Is for ground troops and is designed more to incapacitate

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                7.62 and 5.56 is basically just a choice.

                Thats what made us Finns joining NATO so hard (as in a side from all the politics and just practical matters), because we use 7.62 for all ground troops, especially because Russia uses it as well and wed like to be able to scavenge their ammo if they try any special military operations this way.

                We’ve fucking tons of our own make of a AK variant, the RK. RK62 is decent but the sights are shit, RK95TP is awesome. That was my main weapon, had to keep a -62 for 2 months when I was in a poorer regiment for trainining. (Their boots sucked as well everyone from our brigade got a permit from the doc to wear holiday boots for normal service because they were just so much more comfy, like walking on air vs walking in glass.)

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                  That 7.62 is not the same as NATO 7.62. The AK round has the diameter but not the length, weight or amount of gunpowder.

                  You are right that it doesn’t matter that much compared to 5.56, for a battle rifle, but NATO 7.62 is much more powerful and weighs a shitload more. It’s what I use to shoot 700m (and as I said above what US special forces still use as the standard sniper rifle M21)

                  Russia has been using 5.45 since the 70s (The ones with the brown magazine instead of black). I know the Czech SAR models were available in 5.56x45, 5.45x56, and 7.62x39 (NATO is 7.62x51)

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              You don’t have to be sneaky, just not fucking miss like the gormless cretin that last tried.

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                I mean, if you’re not sneaky and you’re setting up a .50cal turret where they’re holding a speech from POTUS, I’m pretty sure someone would have some notes on that.

                I mean I’m Finnish, not American and I do understand American gun culture is pretty liberal, but is it that liberal?

                Edit but oh boy would I fucking love to open up on that cunt on a stage. CHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOK

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                But he missed because the bullet he used was too small and too light and didn’t have a proper ballistic trajectory

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                  5.56 effective range out of a 16" barrel is 500 yards. Trump was a mere 400 feet from Crooks.

                  “Brandon Webb, a former Navy SEAL and the former head instructor of the SEAL Sniper course, said a well-trained shooter could shoot very accurately with an AR-15 at the distance at which Crooks shot Trump, especially with a magnified optic such as an ACOG sight.”

                  Dude missed. The weapon and projectile are more than capable of delivering an accurate and lethal hit at that distance.

                  TL: DR, Skill issue.

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          Just because it is in range doesn’t mean it’s appropriate

          It was the wrong calibre for what he was doing. The wrong platform for his objective.

          I can but 4” clay pigeons at 50m with a 9mm pistol but I should use something else.

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            Idk man it was less than 200 yards. The military does qualifications out to 500 with the same caliber. Right after it happened every journalist was out there saying it was an impossible shot, which it wouldn’t be for a reasonably skilled shooter. If you look it up most folks are saying 5.56 is effective out to 600 and a skilled shooter can group at 1,000 or more.

            Idk why I’m arguing about this the kid was a useless shithead, just wish he’d done better I suppose.

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          Doesn’t work when the target is wearing discreet body armor, and the impact has to be instantly lethal. Trump isn’t, going to bleed out (they pre-deploy emergency services to large events) Even a lung hit isn’t going to kill fast enough. So center mass become “pretty much heart only”.

          Shooting for the head and neck is pretty much the only option in that scenario.

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    Reward your friends, punish your enemies. Trump showing that he views Russia as an ally, and Canada as a threat.