alt text: a manipulated image portraying the alleged killer/controversial folk hero re-envisioned as a saintly figure, wearing Christian religious garb with a sun-like halo shining behind his head
Source: someone said this image hit the front page on reddit before being “censored”.
Apparent credit: @gedogfx (IG). Title source: “Inkl”. 💩posting for meme archival and commentary purposes.
Are there any more images? This one looks pretty good, but the title promised me multiple images.
If you download this image, then that’s 2 images.
The copyright industry believes in this one weird trick
I’ve never believed in god, but I think I can believe in saints now after Saint Luigi and Saint Javelin
Based
Merry Christmas Luigi!!!
🎄 🎁 🙏🏻
Print it out and put it in your wallet to ward against high insurance rates.
Maybe it will also ward against extra scrutiny from law enforcement. Maybe.
on a personal level this is hella cringe but from a social perspective i love this so much
How typical of Man to consider murder something a Saint would do, even as justice.
Hell of a trolley problem ratio, though.
Like, Joan of Arc, the Knights Templar blaj blah blah, let alone the Spanish inquisitions and various macelvelian Popes
You might wanna study the bible a little bit more
And the Inquisitions and Crusades were what now?
Were you ever even in the vicinity of a bible?
that’s why i worship oil and medicine execs, they have never hurt or killed anyone with their hands and they help make the world go round!
Don’t worry about that guy. He’s just taking his high horse out for a spin.
Must be nice to be so high up that they can’t see all the people their perspective is helping to trample below them.
i was being genuine come join my church we have softserve and bagels
Like, both together, or seperated?
however you want tbh
Let’s be progressive and advocate for separation of church and bagel
Saints are known and martyred for their selflessness and self‐sacrifice. The church is as man made as the Saints, hence all the bad history I’m sure both share to some degree; your proof only proves my point further.
Peacemaking is peacemaking; love is love; we shouldn’t dismiss all the good someone does just because what their shirt connotates. 2+2 is still 4 whether its Hitler or Jesus saying it. Returning good for evil done is more logical whether it’s Hitler or Jesus going about it.
You actually got me to laugh this morning and i almost spit my coffee out so thank you for that! (I’m not being snarky here, that was genuinely funny)
Saints are known and martyred for their selflessness and self‐sacrifice. The church is as man made as the Saints, hence all the bad history I’m sure both share to some degree; your proof only proves my point further.
Peacemaking is peacemaking; love is love; we shouldn’t dismiss all the good someone does just because what their shirt connotates. 2+2 is still 4 whether its Hitler or Jesus saying it. Returning good for evil done is more logical whether it’s Hitler or Jesus going about it.
Saints are known and martyred for their selflessness and self‐sacrifice. The church is as man made as the Saints, hence all the bad history I’m sure both share to some degree; your proof only proves my point further.
Peacemaking is peacemaking; love is love; we shouldn’t dismiss all the good someone does just because what their shirt connotates. 2+2 is still 4 whether its Hitler or Jesus saying it. Returning good for evil done is more logical whether it’s Hitler or Jesus going about it.
It’s almost going to be disappointing if we find out he was framed
You know, I feel like the thousands of people thirsting after him would be a pretty good ego boost at least. Enough to make up for the psychological torture of being framed? Probs not, buuuuuutttt…
You mean that what appeared to be a meticulously planned and masterfully executed assassination, such that there was little to no usable camera footage wasn’t likely to be undone the perp wandering around with a written confession and the murder weapon days later?
I’m shocked there haven’t been more conspiracy theories on this.
Agreed. I always wondered how two different backpacks came into the picture.
And it would explain the drones in the tristate as they could be useful for finding the suspect.
You need a second such incident for the conspiracy to work. Because the implication is that the real saint is out there working his miracles.
It would be the worst kind of mindfuck for him if he was just some radical centrist tech bro who got framed of a crime, sanctified in the public opinion, and then proven to be innocent. Like that’s the shit therapists’ accountants dream of
Guilty or not, convicted or not… He is just a symbol either way.
This is about the corruption within US systems esp health insurance.
Nice.
Akshully that’s a caduceus, symbol of commerce. It’s often confused with the similar Asclepius’ staff, without wings and sometimes with a cup.Edit. Agh, I answered the main post instead of a comment, again.
Unhinged and I am so here for it. Peace be with you.
We are all cringe on this blessed day.
Holy cow, how long will this go on?
For me as a European, it feels like I’m observing some kind of weird tribe that just sacrificed one of their people to the gods and celebrating it for weeks…
That’s really fucked up take on this. First, Luigi is innocent until proven guilty. Accordingly, he’s very much alive and not “sacrificed”. Also, you seem to mistake a wave of support (I am afraid our filter bubble suggests there is more support than there is in the average DS citizen) for celebrations. Also, by trying to ridicule the movement, you do propaganda for the establishment. So please get lost, troll.
he’s very much alive and not “sacrificed”
The CEO is the one that got sacrificed to the gods with the hope that the system changes…
I’m totally on your side when it’s about fixing your broken and also very expensive healthcare system… But I dunno… Maybe electing a president that supports your interests (instead of one that does the opposite) or going on the streets with Millions of others or a nation wide strike would actually change it…
And what exactly is the movement? Getting rid of more CEOs? I don’t see any movement here. Maybe, I’m biased… I’d love to see a movement that actually leads to change, but I don’t see it.
Well, I guess, I have to deal with a few more weaks of memes about this…
Best regards The troll
Strikes only work against corporations when it’s that corporation’s staff striking, and those people seem to prefer to have a job over becoming unemployed
For America to elect a Parliament and President that would regulate the health industry such would have to be put forward by one side or the other. Perhaps this assassination will bring such regulation to the fore in future elections
The CEO is the one that got sacrificed to the gods with the hope that the system changes…
Moving the goalposts much? No one in support of Luigi would dream of considering that CEO mass murderer as “one of their people” as you put it. And since you know that, you absolutely did not mean that mass murdering shithead.
“There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and cartridge (or ammo). Please use in that order.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty
They’ve all but taken the soap box, we have “free speech zones” to “safely” protest out of sight, and when we ignore those the media either doesn’t cover it, or gives the most unflattering description, taking the side of corporations (see: Amazon strikes framed in "how will this affect your Christmas delivery. A.k.a: be mad at the employees)
They’ve taken the ballot box with Citizens United literally paving the way for what Elmo Muskrat is doing now: buying elections. We can’t elect the people we’d want to elect.
They’ve taken the jury through the elimination of the teaching of the concept of jury nullification (but also doesn’t apply in this specific situation) and have taken the Judiciary through ratfuckery (see: Mitch McTurtle refusing to seat any SCOTUS judges when it’s a Democrat picking them)
So all we’re left with is the “cartridge” or, ammo box.
They force this on us but “thankfully” at least some of us won’t just let us keep getting steamrolled. :/
As to how this could be a “movement.” It isn’t. It’s one person choosing the ammo box because like the rest of us he felt hopeless and took the only action he felt could achieve anything at all. (It did: see blue cross blue shield reversing their anesthesia charging plan right after the shooting) There was also the “renewal” of the conversation about healthcare which all but vanished. Check the “issues” from exit polling, healthcare barely showed up. Whenever healthcare was discussed previously it was in the framing of “people love their private insurance!” that being told to us by the media. Now the discussion is “maybe there’s a larger issue if people from left to right are all supportive of what Luigi did.”
didn’t we try the whole elect a president that would bring the change, like twice now?
In fact, looking towards history, the only time we really had change for the better is when the working poor threatened the super rich
didn’t we try the whole elect a president that would bring the change, like twice now?
yeah… some of you tried it.
But an actual majority voting for the Orange one instead of progress after progress after progress can also be interpreted like a part of your population wants a much worst healthcare system and/or is very stupid.
and/or is very stupid
Yes. We have a rigged system with propaganda and a poor educational system by design. This is very powerful and possibly unstoppable at this point. The main reasons our stupid populous vote against their own interests. They are stupid, but it’s not necessarily their fault. Again, propaganda and education.
This is not an easy problem to solve. Mercing CEOs might be the only option… The whole voting and playing by “the rules” isn’t working. The rich are getting richer, poor poorer, and corruption is becoming even more acceptable and in our faces.
If 50% of the population stop working for weeks, this should be a lot more effective than “mercing” anyone.
I’m not sure if you realize this if you are outside the US, but debt in the country is at or near all time highs. Over 70% of people live paycheck to paycheck (some of those don’t have expenses fully covered, even), and roughly 10% are below the poverty line. Unfortunately, as much as many of us would like to strike, we don’t have the resources. A weeks long strike would mean many people couldn’t feed themselves or their children, or even afford basic necessities. The other issue is that many of those involved in all the MAGA nonsense will call for violence against protestors, even do things like drive a car through a crowd of them.
Yes, let us all just starve and get evicted. Most of us are barely scraping by while we are working 40+ hr weeks. Forfeiting our meager incomes simply isn’t an option if we want to, you know, survive.
oh ya, I too forgot that black president existed. who in an act of pure bipartisan appeasement decided to create the Affordable Care Act that we have today instead
Everyone on lemmy celebrates the murder openly. This isn’t “a wave of support” this is literally deification.
This isn’t “a wave of support” this is literally deification.
I am sorry that’s how you feel.
Is that wave of support outside social media?
Is that wave of support outside social media?
Are you reading comprehension challenged?
(I am afraid our filter bubble suggests there is more support than there is in the average DS citizen
Unfortunately when you exploit the people of a place for too long they get backed into a corner and lash out.
That’s a horrible take lmfao you miss the point completely. Get outta here troll
hate for a system that has abused its victims for decades runs deep.
expect it to continue at least, grow to encompass more saintly visages at most.
Not quite, in America we always think of the sacrificed as belonging to the other tribe.
Fuck off then
Looks great. But it’s a missed opportunity to not have this symbol on his chest:
https://clipart-library.com/img/808303.jpgThat’s the Caduceus depicted above, the symbol of logistics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caduceus. Which is often but improperly used these days as a medical symbol in place of the Rod of Asclepius, which has only one snake and no wings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_of_Asclepius
Yea, but a burning heart also works well as a symbol for Caritas
Achtually, I find the Sacred Heart iconography quite apt given the circumstances. It’s about self sacrifice for the love of humanity.
The image of the Sacred Heart of Jesus is rich with symbolism. The exposed Heart, often depicted with a crown of thorns, represents Jesus’ suffering and his immense love for humanity. The flames emanating from the Heart signify the transformative and purifying power of his love, while the cross above the Heart is a reminder of his redemptive sacrifice for the sins of the whole world.
https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-sacred-heart-of-jesus-catholic-answers-guide
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Heart
(Finally, my many, many fucked up years of religious school has paid off.)
Akshully that’s a caduceus, symbol of commerce. It’s often confused with the similar Asclepius’ staff, without wings and sometimes with a cup.
No akshully needed, that’s exactly the kind of information that’s important. Thank you
It’s funny with reference to the Wikipedia entry for it. A symbol of commerce, often used “inappropriately” by the health industry
Paraphrased, quote marks are mine, added since I think the health in general is more about commerce than health
You’re telling me the Greek symbol for profit is easily confused with the symbol for medicine?
Wow, the Greeks really were advanced!
Asclepius’ staff
Here’s a link for anyone else trying to remember the correct image.
Image with load, just black
Huh. I think it has a transparent background. It’s fine on dark mode in the web browser.
Yep, my phone’s shitty dark mode was the problem haha
Pope Francis has the opportunity to do the funniest thing here
He can’t become a Saint until after he dies, unfortunately.
Sounds like the government wants to do just that if he loses.
Pope could always talk to the big man and get that rule changed. Who’s gonna stop him, the pope?
‘In nomine Patris et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Mora, abnegare et deponere. Amen.’
I was ready to point out that this was not possible because canonisation requires the person have performed two miracles, but then I found out that there is actually a pathway without that:
Very rarely, a Pope may waive the requirement… if he, the Sacred College of Cardinals, and the Congregation for the Causes of Saints all agree that the Blessed lived a life of great merit proven by certain actions.
I’m not sure they can waive the requirement that a saint be dead however, it’s sort of part of the definition…
I think there is an inbetween where you not declared saint but basically are declared somewhat holy ready to be sainted once you die.
But he’s already so beautified 😍
Oh, my. What are you doing with this AI pic you found in the internet?
Praising His Name
Venerated, Beatified, Saint. At least that’s what I remember from Catechism beginning some 67 years ago
Doesn’t one of the charges carry the death penalty?
Martyrs get a pass on the miracles BTW.
Not quite. They get a pass on miracles for beatification, but wording to this page’s “Since 1983” section two miracles are originally required for canonisation. In fact it is the non-martyr blessed who get a pass, since their miracle to become blessed counts and they only need one more.
The miracles are relatively easy in his case, considering his connection to healthcare. Get enough people with terminal diagnoses praying for his intercession, and some will happen to make a statistically unlikely spontaneous recovery.
Well, the Popeis the absolute sovereign dictator of Church dogma, so if he says tomorrow that Luigi is a saint, then all 1 billion Catholics worldwide must listen
Kind of. He is the leader of the church but the congregation of Cardinals also holds a lot of political sway over the office as well and advise the pope on all kinds of matters.
Yeah and there’s still ecumenical councils and tradition.
There’s a reason the pope that gave birth didn’t lead to female priests, sexusl activity permitted among priests, or transmasculine priests, just a genital inspection before being confirmed as pope
The miracles are going to be people praying to him to have their claims accepted.
This is actually pretty cool in the frame of Folk Saints, maybe I’ll write up a chaplet or something 🤔
